Solved Long boot up with new card?

HI, I have a tower that I use as a smart TV. AMD dual core, Gigabyte M/B, 4 gb ram and a ATI radeon card. Use a VGA connected to TV and a pair of external speakers. Works perfectly.
I decided to try a new card which had an HDMI connector. Namely an ATI Radeon HD 5450 1 gig ram.
I uninstalled the driver and then closed down the comp and after removing old card inserted the new. Pressed the on button and nothing happened other than a whirring noise. I waited for about 20 seconds and then shut off the power. Inserted the old and powered up as per normal. Retried the new and got the same result. I then cleared the CMOS and again got the same result. Tried the onboard video, worked perfect. Same with the old, so now I am thinking I have a bad card.
I then checked the BIOS and set it to PEG and then uninstalled the current driver. Again inserted the new card and booted. Whirring noise again. So I just sat there for about a minute when the beep sounded and the comp booted.
All was well, removed the VGA and speakers and found the HDMI to be working perfectly. Installed the drivers from the disk supplied. Changed the BIOS to PCI.
Booted several times but noticed that the whirring noise lasts about 30 seconds before booting.
My question is has anybody else come across this.
I checked on Amazon ( where I purchased this from )and came across one person who has the same delayed booting sequence.( same card ).

N.B. I do not play games so please no negative comments from gamers. I just would like to know if anyone else has come across this, thank you.
 

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wither 3

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It sounds to me like the card isn't getting enough power. It could be the power supply or, perhaps, the card needs two plugs and you may be only using one.
 

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It sounds to me like the card isn't getting enough power. It could be the power supply or, perhaps, the card needs two plugs and you may be only using one.

You might have hit the nail on the head re-power. I checked the specs and it states 400 whereas I run a 300.
The card doesn't have a plug connector.
The card I replaced this with had a power plug connector ( ATI Radeon x 1950 gt ) and ran perfectly. It also required a lot more power and that gave me no probs. Would the HDMI make a lot of difference? I ask because other than the extended boot it runs perfectly and the difference in quality is very noticeable.
 

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wither 3

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When I bought my last graphics card, the major problem was the amperage requirements which my power supply didn't meet. I asked MSI about it and they said I would be fine. On the other hand, I have a 600 W power supply. So the juries out on whether your power supply is large enough but I still think it's the cause of the slow startup. I took a look and I agree you don't need a plug since there's no fan. I don't think HDMI has anything to do with it. All HDMI does is include the video and sound on one cable whereas DVI doesn't have any sound. Since it's working nicely for you, I wouldn't worry about it if you can stand the slow startup. You may end up having to replace the power supply sometime down the line but they're cheap. You also have to make sure that your mobo can handle a larger power supply if you have to replace it because the card is drawing all its power off the PCI-E slot.
 

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townsbg

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I agree with the power supply. Try getting at least a 500 watt to give yourself some room. Your new card likely requires much more power than your old. You could run into performance issue when using putting strain on your card (such as watching a dvd or especially playing games) if you don't upgrade.
 

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I agree with the power supply. Try getting at least a 500 watt to give yourself some room. Your new card likely requires much more power than your old. You could run into performance issue when using putting strain on your card (such as watching a dvd or especially playing games) if you don't upgrade.

As stated I don't play games, however I have just for the first time played a DVD film, Sherlock Holmes and was very impressed, no probs what so ever. ( I tried it because my LG dvd HDMI player packed up ). This is a two hour plus film. Keeping my fingers crossed all will be well.

Hope you all have a Merry Christmas.
 

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It sounds to me like the card isn't getting enough power. It could be the power supply or, perhaps, the card needs two plugs and you may be only using one.

A very belated update added to my original reply to you.

I have just installed a more powerful PSU namely a 500 as opposed to the original 300. The card actually requires a 400 . The slow start up is still with me, so it would appear that it isn't the PSU. I did notice a slight uplift in the speed of the comp after fitting the new PSU, or is that just wishful thinking on mt part?
 

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Patonb

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I would clear your CMOS, switch the jumpers on the mobo, or unplug and pull the battery for 30min, then boot it up.

The long boot is the BIOS checking everything, and for some reason it is slow somewhere. You might want to boot up with the bios check screen if your mobo supports it.

Make sure you reseat everything including your drive cables and ram, to ensure proper communication.
 

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I would clear your CMOS, switch the jumpers on the mobo, or unplug and pull the battery for 30min, then boot it up.

The long boot is the BIOS checking everything, and for some reason it is slow somewhere. You might want to boot up with the bios check screen if your mobo supports it.

Make sure you reseat everything including your drive cables and ram, to ensure proper communication.

patonb, I removed the battery and left the comp for several hours, ( was doing something else ) reinserted battery and reset BIOS, no change. I did notice one thing albeit very small, the whirring noise that can be heard prior to the Bootup beep was considerably quieter. The whirring happens seven times and then I get the BIOS beep and then a normal Bootup.
I might add that the PSU wasn't cheap, in fact about three times more than what I would normally pay. ( blissfully silent in its operation ).
No BIOS checking screen available.
 

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Patonb

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pAYING GOOD MONEY FOR A PSU IS NEVER , oops, wasted. The psu is one of those Items that doesn't get upgraded if selected properly. I'm still running my original Corsair 520hx from 6yrs ago!

Back to your original issue, Have you checked to ensure you have the newest BIOS? I'm wondering if the BIOS is optimizefd for the newer cards.
 

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pAYING GOOD MONEY FOR A PSU IS NEVER , oops, wasted. The psu is one of those Items that doesn't get upgraded if selected properly. I'm still running my original Corsair 520hx from 6yrs ago!

Back to your original issue, Have you checked to ensure you have the newest BIOS? I'm wondering if the BIOS is optimizefd for the newer cards.

Yes I have the latest BIOS, that was one of the first things I looked at. I have messaged Gigabyte re the prob. It will be interesting to see if I get a reply, it is an oldish M/B.
 

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townsbg

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Are you sure that you have the card in the correct slot? Is it a pci-e x16 slot designed for graphics cards? Did you connect any additional power cables?

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townsbg

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That doesn't answer my questions.
 

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HI, I have a tower that I use as a smart TV. AMD dual core, Gigabyte M/B, 4 gb ram and a ATI radeon card. Use a VGA connected to TV and a pair of external speakers. Works perfectly.
I decided to try a new card which had an HDMI connector. Namely an ATI Radeon HD 5450 1 gig ram.
I uninstalled the driver and then closed down the comp and after removing old card inserted the new. Pressed the on button and nothing happened other than a whirring noise. I waited for about 20 seconds and then shut off the power. Inserted the old and powered up as per normal. Retried the new and got the same result. I then cleared the CMOS and again got the same result. Tried the onboard video, worked perfect. Same with the old, so now I am thinking I have a bad card.
I then checked the BIOS and set it to PEG and then uninstalled the current driver. Again inserted the new card and booted. Whirring noise again. So I just sat there for about a minute when the beep sounded and the comp booted.
All was well, removed the VGA and speakers and found the HDMI to be working perfectly. Installed the drivers from the disk supplied. Changed the BIOS to PCI.
Booted several times but noticed that the whirring noise lasts about 30 seconds before booting.
My question is has anybody else come across this.
I checked on Amazon ( where I purchased this from )and came across one person who has the same delayed booting sequence.( same card ).

N.B. I do not play games so please no negative comments from gamers. I just would like to know if anyone else has come across this, thank you.

Fixed: I emailed Gigabyte with my prob. To my surprise they emailed an updated BIOS that wasn't or isn't available on their download page for my M/B. Installed the new BIOS and no more lag.
Thankyou to all who offered support.
 

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Patonb

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That's what I thought.

Enjoy.
 

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    gtx 560 ti // gtx 260-216
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    Dual 22" // Headless
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    OCZ aGILITY 3, 120Gig + Seagate 500Gig x 2
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    Silverstone da700 // Corsair 520hx
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    Twin CM Hyper 212+ // Noctua NH-u12
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