Upgrading from Vista to Windows 7

NP13TH

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Hi

I'm hoping someone can advise me on upgrading from Vista to Windows 7.

I have a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Li 1818 laptop, which i bought in 2007. It's in good working order and i like the 17 inch screen. I am running Vista 64 bit.

I checked the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor and everything is ok, except for one crucial element - that being my Network Adapter.

This is a Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC. Basically it says the driver needs updating, which i've tried to do, but it still won't let me connect wirelessly to the internet. I can however connect using an ethernet cable. Basically my laptop is near enough to the Sky Hub Router to use a cable.

When i go into the Fujitsu download site, it doesn't give any options for Windows 7. Only XP and Vista.

Before i go and buy an OEM Windows 7 licence, i want to be 100% sure that i can do the following: -

  • Will i still be able to install Windows 7 even though there is not a Windows 7 network adapter?
  • I'm hoping i can, because at present i am connecting to the internet just fine with an ethernet cable as my network adapter just won't work.
  • I have no problem connecting using ethernet, as long as Windows 7 installs and works.

Many thanks.

NP13th.
 

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MilesAhead

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Are you planning on doing a clean install that generates a Windows.old folder?

I'm asking because I did that both with Windows 7 32 bit and 64 bit. The 32 bit went fine. My 64 bit Vista SP1 Home Premium I got flaky behavior. It was bad enough I restored the image of Vista x64 and just kept using it.

Of course this may not happen on your machine. But it may be worth making a backup image of your current system to an external drive. Then download a Windows 7 ISO install disc. You can install for evaluation with no product ID. This should tell you if your WiFi will work when you upgrade.

If everything works out you can activate the new OS. If not you can restore the image to get things back to normal.
 

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NP13TH

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Hi

Thanks for the reply. From what you`re saying I probably will do a clean install and create a backup. I`m not sure what u mean by an ISO image though.

Are you saying I can install Windows 7 as an ISO image from the installation disc before a proper installation?

Thanks.

NP13TH
 

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MilesAhead

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You can download ISO images of Windows 7 that are not pirate. Searching Windows 7 Help Forums whould provide links(my WiFi is too slow right now to search them out.)

You can burn the ISO to disc or use a program like Rufus to create a bootable install on a USB key and install from there. When it asks for the product key just leave it blank. After install it will say something about evaluation in the bottom right corner of the desktop until it is activated.

This way you know for sure everything works before you buy it.
 

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NP13TH

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Many thanks again. I`ll try the ISO option.

NP13TH
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
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    Intel (R) Core (TM) 2 CPU T5300
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MilesAhead

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    HP Pavilion m9515y
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    Phenom X4 9850
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    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Some Radeon Cheapie with 512 MB Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    750 GB SATA 3G
    2 SIIG Superspeed docks w/WD Caviar Black Sata II or III

whs

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If the network adaptor is a problem, get a WiFi dongle.
 

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NP13TH

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Hi..

I might have to try that if all other options don't work.

At present I`m looking at updating the network drivers using the Fujitsu downloads, but the upgrade doesn't seem to download properly. I keep getting the blue screen saying there has been an error, so I have to boot up in safe mode and roll the driver back.

The earlier replies from Miles is also my next option. I`m going to back up Vista, download a Windows 7 ISO image and see how that works before buying an OEM version. They are only about £70 so not too bad. Just trying to find the safest place to buy one from.

I have got other options too. I saw on a BT Store site that they sell refurbished laptops for around £140. But not sure if that is worth doing.

Then I`ll just keep the Vista laptop and connect using Ethernet cable.

Thanks
 

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Ex_Brit

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Ex_Brit

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You're welcome and I just noticed I misspelled Tutorial, duly corrected.
 

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townsbg

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Windows has had good native support for eithernet drivers since at least XP. Are you driver issues with wireless? If the Vista drivers won't install try running the executable with vista compatibility. I've never tried that with a driver but it might work. If not you'll need to get a new adapter.

Upgrade installs have been the source of many troubles in the past. I would vote for a clean install - even with an upgrade disc.

Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version - Windows 7 Help Forums
My 7 license is an upgrade and I've had activation issues with a clean install. I've also had their activation techs refuse to help and the hacks I read about didn't work for me.
 

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NP13TH

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Yes the issues are with wireless only. I can connect with an Ethernet.

The odd thing is, the wireless connectivity driver problems only started when I changed my internet provider. It worked fine with a BT HUB Router. The problem is with the new router on Sky, which I understand is a problem with Vista.

I`ve also never downloaded a driver before so I hope I am choosing the right ones, as it brings up different versions for I believe, 32 and 64 bit laptops.

I was tempted to use a download driver site but I don't know which one is safe and trustworthy.
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Fufitsu Siemens Amilo Li 1818
    CPU
    Intel (R) Core (TM) 2 CPU T5300
    Memory
    2GB

whs

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My 7 license is an upgr
ade and I've had activation issues with a clean install. I've also had their activation techs refuse to help and the hacks I read about didn't work for me.
The tutorial in the link has worked for many people. My guess is you have made a mistake somewhere along the line.
 

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    Mid 2010 iMac
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    Quad core 3.2 Ghz Intel I3
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    8 gb
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    ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 mb ram
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    1920x1080 and 1440x900
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    1 TB
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NP13TH

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Think you're right - this all started with a change to the ISP so i'm gonna give them a call to find out why their routers are causing problems and others do not.

Thanks again to all...

NP13th

P.S. I also had a look at some reliable uk stores and didn't realise they still sell new Windows 7 laptops! Also at a price better than Windows 8/8.1. I thought they were refurbs but they're actually new. They have Windows 7 Professional, which is fine by me as i need to use it for work too. Some are Windows 8.1 pro with downgrade rights, which i'm guessing aint a problem.

I'm seriously tempted!!

:D
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Fufitsu Siemens Amilo Li 1818
    CPU
    Intel (R) Core (TM) 2 CPU T5300
    Memory
    2GB

townsbg

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I believe that 7 pro is the only version manufacturers can put on anymore, other than 8.1.
 

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    Mid 2010 iMac
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    Quad core 3.2 Ghz Intel I3
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    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 mb ram
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 and 1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB
    Other Info
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