Why can't wither's IE 11 play some Youtube videos?

Vistaar

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Since there is no particular need to use old browsers on Windows 7 (at least not yet: give it a few years), I have renamed this thread in deference to the Windows 7 gurus who have deemed to reply. I may or may not start another thread for those who still use Windows Vista.

After reviewing the latest posts, it seems that the only remaining issue in this thread is wither 3's inability to watch certain YouTube videos using Internet Explorer 11 on Windows 7. It might have been better if wither had posted at SevenForums, but I have renamed this thread again.
 
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I just tried Opera and SeaMonkey and didn't get any messages.
 

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I think that I tried to install Chrome one time (don't ask me why I would do something silly like that) and it said it wasn't compatible with my OS.
 

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For information, I tried to view video at YouTube last night using IE 11 on my Win 7 system and it wouldn't let me because IE 11 doesn't support HTML 5. Firefox works.
 

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I tried to view video at YouTube last night using IE 11 on my Win 7 system and it wouldn't let me because IE 11 doesn't support HTML 5.
Even IE9 supports HTML 5, as does Pale Moon 27. That is not the topic!

I am currently investigating a promising browser option for Windows Vista and will post again soon with some relevant information.
 
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I'm just relaying what the actual YouTube message was. I didn't intend to go into any discussion about it. I'm just saying even Win 7 is susceptible to the same kind of problems as Vista.
 

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I'm surprised that they haven't yet built the unsupported nag in MSE.
Yet another fascinating Windows 7 topic! The explanation is probably that the Microsoft Security Essentials client hasn't actually been upgraded since version 4.10.209.0 was released in November 2016 (i.e. you are using the same version I was using on Vista when the nagging started in January 2017). Microsoft may have concluded that if they "upgraded" MSE to nag on Windows 7, users would simply turn to third-party downloads of older versions,
just as Windows XP diehards and some Vista users turned to version 4.4 (released in 2013), which was still somewhat functional until about year ago.

Not only are MSE users running Windows 7 not being nagged, but Microsoft has now promised definition updates until 2023 - even though there is no longer any supported version of Windows that MSE ever supported! On the other hand, Microsoft says they will never upgrade the old client version and has even threatened to remove the download. In fact one download page now redirects to What is Microsoft Security Essentials?, but the other page at Download Microsoft Security Essentials from Official Microsoft Download Center is still functional at this time. Windows 7 users might want to store an MSE installer for future use!
 
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Vistaar

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I hate to take this thread's latest topic off topic, but I could not readily reproduce that issue using Internet Explorer 9 on Windows Vista:

YouTube IE9.JPG

Perhaps wither3 could investigate the Windows 7 Internet Explorer 11 issue more intensively and report back.
 

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I hadn't tried it in IE 9. When I went to YouTube it said that my browser is no longer supported and asked me to update. I clicked on Remind Me Later, it opened YouTube. Some videos were simply black screens, others played and some gave me the same HTML5 message. When I click on the message to see the policy, it takes me back to the screen that says my browser isn't supported. I'm not using the same version of IE 9 since I didn't install any of the 20008 updates as discussed in another thread. Search on Fishing Naked and try to play it.

In regards to IE 11, it does behave similar to what I see in IE 9. Just depends on the video. Need to do some more checking.
 
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Search on Fishing Naked and try to play it.
This is what I see when I click on your suggested video using IE 11 on Windows 10 (I do not use Windows 7 or 8.1 myself):
Youtube IE 11 Fishing Naked.JPG

This is Internet Explorer 11 playing the trailer to your suggested video:
YouTube IE 11 Trailer.JPG
 

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Of course, I have the same dilemma since I don't use Win 10.
 

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Sorry, but I can't seem to find any YouTube videos that Internet Explorer 11 cannot play. (IE 9 is another story, mainly because it does not support Media Source Extensions; but this no longer seems to be a good forum for discussing issues related to Windows Vista.)
 

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I think you mean related to Windows 7.

As I mentioned in the other thread, I didn't intend to discuss the Win 7 behavior here. I might try disabling the Flash add-on to see if it makes a difference.

I don't know what they did in Win 10 to make HTML5 and IE 11 more friendly to one another. There's plenty of blogs where that's not the case but those aren't recent.

We don't need to go any further with this.
 

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No, I think you mean related to Windows 7.

This is the same thread. If you don't intend to discuss something, then I would suggest that you simply refrain from posting about it. Certainly none of this pertains to the topic that I originally posted about, which is why I renamed the thread in your honor. Your friend townsbg wasn't interested in the thread's original topic either, posting here only to share some Windows 7 wisdom with you. Disabling Flash Player will not make any difference on YouTube.

Those old blogs are correct AFAIK: Internet Explorer 11 should function about the same no matter what Windows version you are running. Assuming you have a YouTube account and were signed in, and assuming all the videos you have trouble with belong to the same genre as Fishing Naked, is it possible that you never provided your date of birth to YouTube? IE 11 definitely supports HTML5, otherwise it would be unable to play a single YouTube video, so you can scratch that ridiculous theory.
 

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My comment was made in the thread concerning the latest version of AFP. If it's the same thread, where are those posts? I made that comment about discussing it was because it was off topic.

In some blogs concerning this problem in Win 7, people found that disabling Flash solved their problem (I'm not going to chase those down again). The other possible fix was to make sure that "Enable alternative codecs for HTML5 media elements" is enabled in the Advanced Internet Options. It was enabled in IE 11 and, surprisingly, it's enabled in IE 9.

I rarely log into YouTube unless it asks me to. I can give that a try but it won't be until tomorrow night. I tried it in IE 9 but it wouldn't work for the video under question, as well as others chosen at random.
 
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I rarely log into YouTube unless it asks me to.
If "the video under question" is still Fishing Naked or something of similar ilk, the first screenshot in post #10 says "Sign in to confirm your age." Don't bother testing with IE 9 on my account: There are many YouTube videos that IE 9 can't play, and it should soon become completely useless at YouTube.
 

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It doesn't work for that video when logged in. I also tried disabling Flash as well as VLC. I sent a troubleshoot request to YouTube (available by right clicking error screen). I'll post their response if I get one.
 

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Yes.
 

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