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Hi,

One last comment regarding accessing the files from other sources. Try Ubuntu as a boot medium to access the files & folders. This will be from a GUI & with Windows inactive, therefore any "protection" should be off.

Runfrom the CD with the "Try Ubuntu" option in the boot menu.

Look here for the information on Ubuntu: -

Desktop | Ubuntu

& here for the download: -

Download | Ubuntu
 

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Hi Richard and Lottiemansion.

I just tried some options:
- cmd with admin --> takeown...
- cmd with admin --> calc...
- Hide the folders
Each time I get a message stating; "the system cannot find this item"

About "Try booting into this CD (ISO DOS) disk, and Ubuntu":
I have a similar all-in-one program on a cd, ERD Commander, and I did try that earlier to delete those folders. With this app I have a basic Windows Explorer like environment but unfortunately it did not work either.
Though I'll give it a last shot to do it with that ISO DOS.
 

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Hi Richard and Lottiemansion.

I just tried some options:
- cmd with admin --> takeown...
- cmd with admin --> calc...
- Hide the folders
Each time I get a message stating; "the system cannot find this item"

About "Try booting into this CD (ISO DOS) disk, and Ubuntu":
I have a similar all-in-one program on a cd, ERD Commander, and I did try that earlier to delete those folders. With this app I have a basic Windows Explorer like environment but unfortunately it did not work either.
Though I'll give it a last shot to do it with that ISO DOS.

I just thought about this, maybe the folders are gone from my system as Windows suggested, but the culprit could be a graphical one. Though the game is removed from my system, I still see a reference in Nvidia control panel. So I decided to reinstall my graphics card drivers.
Don't know if it will help, I'm shooting from the hip and hoping to get a lucky shot...
 

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Hi,

Just had a thought too along those lines of being removed yet still visable, has this game ever been shared or has it installed as a shard resource?

Look in Public folders, also in Network share & control center for the evidence.
 
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Did you ever try a System Restore? (Most Likely have) If it is a Graphical problem there may be a Registry Key somewhere causing this a Temp Registry Cleaner may fix this same with the system Restore,

As for the ISO you will need the following :

  • A computer with Internet Connection
  • ISO Burner
  • ISO - Ubuntu 10.04 (Stable Release)
  • A blank CD/DVD

First I would recommend Downloading the ISO for Ubuntu 10.04 as this is the most Stable Release for 10.10 is New and Buggy in some areas

See Download | Ubuntu For More Information Please Select the 10.04 Edition and 64 Bit

Be warned this is a Big Download and will take some time

After the Download has finished you will need an ISO Burner

If you scroll Down the download page there is a Section to show you how to Burn your ISO to your Disk

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After your Disk is Burned Insert it into your System After that Restart your Computer and then using your Keyboard press enter for your Language and Press Enter for the TRY UBUNTU

Do Not install Ubuntu as this will install the GRUB Bootloader causing more Problems

Once in Ubuntu you should be able to navigate to your Folder and Delete the Folder please report back any errors

WARNING - Please shutdown your Computer in Ubuntu and remove the disk as it will boot into the Disk after a restart

Hope This Helps,
Josh
 
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Hi guys

These are the things I tried so far.
- No, the game has never been shared, my Shared Folder is empty.
- Public Folders and Network shares are empty too.
- Used Driver Sweeper to uninstall anything related to Nvidia 9400 GT.
- Installed Nvidia from disk and updated to the latest version.
- Downloaded an ISO with Mafia on it, installed/uninstalled it with Revo.
First it installed itself in the 64 bit Program Files, so I uninstalled/reinstalled in the 86 Program Files. Now I saw two Mafia folders in Explorer (86 Program Files), so I cutted everything out the fresh created Mafia into the corrupt one, deleted the fresh Mafia folder, in the hope that with the next uninstall that persistent folder would be removed.
Revo actually deleted every file and subfolder of the corrupted Mafia folder but the main folder was still there, so nothing really changed with this attempt.
- Scanned the registry again, (Mafia, *Mafia and with *\Mafia), deleted everything I found, and now there's not a single trace to be found relating to Mafia.

Isn't it weird that there's not a single trace of any kind of the Mafia folder in the registry and yet I can still see 3 location when I browse on C?
One should expect that I can find them back in the registry, no?

Gonna do the Ubuntu trick now, see ya.
 

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Hi Carlo,

A couple of things.

1. Every file and folder in the system is not included in the registry. It does have a great many, but nowhere near all of them. So removing everything relating to "Mafia" from the registry will not necessarily remove all files and folders from the system.

2. There may be entries in the registry that relate to "Mafia" but do not contain the word "Mafia" anywhere in them - they may be in coded form and extremely difficult to find. Frankly, I'm surprised you found any after running Revo in Advanced Mode as it generally finds and provides the option to remove all such related items - but we're dealing with a special case here.

3. IMHO, the problem is that the program was either corrupt (possible, but not my first choice) or was intentionally or unintentionally modified (revising some files, adding files, removing files) and essentially changing it from the official version (possibly or probably to bypass security protecting the software from exactly what was done or even to maliciously alter things to include malware, ways to access the computer with special hacking programs, or create problems such as you are experiencing - again, possibly intentionally, but in this case most likely a side-effect of some other alteration). Since we don't know what was changed (they could have altered actual system files and then disguised it well enough so it isn't being detected), it's almost impossible to identify the cause and resolve the problem (short of something drastic like a clean install or a restore to factory settings and starting over again - I'm not sure if a system repair/upgrade will help, but if you have a genuine Vista installation disk, it's probably worth a try before the much more drastic clean install) as we have seen with the many different approaches attempted already - many of which should almost certainly have worked (and probably would have worked with a legitimate program from legitimate sources).

4. Ubuntu is a good suggestion because it uses a different Operation System and, as such, may work when using the system's OS (even if done from DOS on a boot disk) isn't doing the trick. It's certainly worth a try. The worst that will happen is it too doesn't work (and you have a good disk to keep as it may come in handy for other purposes). And who knows, maybe it might even work (in which case many of us will be thinking that option a whole lot earlier than we did in this thread if we ever encounter something like this again).

After this, and short of something a bit more drastic than warranted (I mean, after all, it's only two or three unwanted and worthless folders that aren't causing any harm where they are - assuming you really are completely clear of malware or intrusions or other problems which have yet to be revealed), I believe most of us will have exhausted all our ideas (though I could be wrong - but I know I have no further suggestions that aren't overly drastic).

I sincerely hope Ubuntu does the trick. Assuming nobody has any better ideas or anything else that hasn't already been tried, how far you want to take it after that if it too doesn't work is entirely your decision. If you have all the software and drivers and codes and backup your data and make note of your settings and put forth the time and effort to essentially re-install and re-configure everything, then I'm almost 100% certain a clean install (or a restore to factory conditions) will solve the problem. Frankly, I would just live with the problem before I went to that extreme, but it's your computer and your choice to make. If you decide to go that route anyway, then post back and we'll provide assistance with instructions or whatever help you need.

Good luck and best wishes!
 

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Hi guys

I'm now responding from within the ubuntu cd with firefox.
I can not seem to find a program like windows explorer from this CD where I can navigate to where I wanna be.
Its my first time with ubuntu and I have to say that's very complicated..
I browsed the help file online and there they show a program that's similar to Explorer, Nautilus. But I've been searching for an hour now and can't seem to find it.
In the graphical explanation from the help file, Nautilus seems a program I could work with.

I clicked all over the place and I haven't even seen my C drive, I don't know what I'm doing here and I'm gonna quit back to my operating system.
 

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There is a File Explorer in Ubuntu though I am more familiar with Kubuntu your Drive should appear on the Desktop

Josh
 

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Hi guys

I'm now responding from within the ubuntu cd with firefox.
I can not seem to find a program like windows explorer from this CD where I can navigate to where I wanna be.
Its my first time with ubuntu and I have to say that's very complicated..
I browsed the help file online and there they show a program that's similar to Explorer, Nautilus. But I've been searching for an hour now and can't seem to find it.
In the graphical explanation from the help file, Nautilus seems a program I could work with.

I clicked all over the place and I haven't even seen my C drive, I don't know what I'm doing here and I'm gonna quit back to my operating system.

I did try some commands in a prompt like interface.
RMDIR /S "C:\Program FIles (86)\Mafia = failed to remove, no such file or directory
CD "PATH" RD Mafia = too many arguments
That's all I tried, didn't trust it anymore after it said too many arguments.

Maybe it would be better if someone took control over my pc (Remote assistance) and then tried with ubuntu from his pc.
If only I could find Nautilus... maybe it has dived under or drowned (lol)
 
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There is a File Explorer in Ubuntu though I am more familiar with Kubuntu your Drive should appear on the Desktop

Josh

Hi Josh

My desktop in ubuntu is blanc and when I right click I see about 10 options with submenus, but I haven't seen anything like explorer or a computer shortcut like in windows.
The start button reveals the same menu. (System, Terminal, Network etc.)
Forgive my ignorance, I'm a first timer with ubuntu.

Now I found an Archiver and in that program I can browse somewhat like in explorer.
I see Root and Filesystem and therein directories like BIN, dev, and boot and many more...
Did almost click on everyone to see whats in it, and its getting more complicated because of all the unknown names I encounter.
If I choose System --> Show Filesystems that sda is my internal disk and sda1 is my c partition, but the only thing I can do is "Press to continue" and then the window closes.
It is just a plain text representation, not an actual program.

Its time to call it quit, I'm getting nowhere.

Thanks buddy for the help, but now I have to go.
 

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I have notified Dan for he has a lot of experience with Ubuntu
 

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Right!
Read through everything posted, here's what I'm going to do. This post will be edited alot since I'm going to be booting to and from Ubuntu and Seven, so if I confuse you in any way on how this post will be edited, please shout.

Okay, going to boot to Ubuntu now. *posted*

EDIT:
I'm rushing this, i'll boot the live CD on my computer and go thru it there.

Just a thought.
Have you tried to move the problem folder to another folder, then tried deleting the problem folder? Sometimes that works, it's worth a try...
 
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Hi Carlo,

A couple of things.

1. Every file and folder in the system is not included in the registry. It does have a great many, but nowhere near all of them. So removing everything relating to "Mafia" from the registry will not necessarily remove all files and folders from the system.

2. There may be entries in the registry that relate to "Mafia" but do not contain the word "Mafia" anywhere in them - they may be in coded form and extremely difficult to find. Frankly, I'm surprised you found any after running Revo in Advanced Mode as it generally finds and provides the option to remove all such related items - but we're dealing with a special case here.

3. IMHO, the problem is that the program was either corrupt (possible, but not my first choice) or was intentionally or unintentionally modified (revising some files, adding files, removing files) and essentially changing it from the official version (possibly or probably to bypass security protecting the software from exactly what was done or even to maliciously alter things to include malware, ways to access the computer with special hacking programs, or create problems such as you are experiencing - again, possibly intentionally, but in this case most likely a side-effect of some other alteration). Since we don't know what was changed (they could have altered actual system files and then disguised it well enough so it isn't being detected), it's almost impossible to identify the cause and resolve the problem (short of something drastic like a clean install or a restore to factory settings and starting over again - I'm not sure if a system repair/upgrade will help, but if you have a genuine Vista installation disk, it's probably worth a try before the much more drastic clean install) as we have seen with the many different approaches attempted already - many of which should almost certainly have worked (and probably would have worked with a legitimate program from legitimate sources).

4. Ubuntu is a good suggestion because it uses a different Operation System and, as such, may work when using the system's OS (even if done from DOS on a boot disk) isn't doing the trick. It's certainly worth a try. The worst that will happen is it too doesn't work (and you have a good disk to keep as it may come in handy for other purposes). And who knows, maybe it might even work (in which case many of us will be thinking that option a whole lot earlier than we did in this thread if we ever encounter something like this again).

After this, and short of something a bit more drastic than warranted (I mean, after all, it's only two or three unwanted and worthless folders that aren't causing any harm where they are - assuming you really are completely clear of malware or intrusions or other problems which have yet to be revealed), I believe most of us will have exhausted all our ideas (though I could be wrong - but I know I have no further suggestions that aren't overly drastic).

I sincerely hope Ubuntu does the trick. Assuming nobody has any better ideas or anything else that hasn't already been tried, how far you want to take it after that if it too doesn't work is entirely your decision. If you have all the software and drivers and codes and backup your data and make note of your settings and put forth the time and effort to essentially re-install and re-configure everything, then I'm almost 100% certain a clean install (or a restore to factory conditions) will solve the problem. Frankly, I would just live with the problem before I went to that extreme, but it's your computer and your choice to make. If you decide to go that route anyway, then post back and we'll provide assistance with instructions or whatever help you need.

Good luck and best wishes!

Hi Lorien

In regard to your second argument (2.) I have to correct my findings slightly.
The remnants I found were more like those found in the MUI, last key used, etc. didn't encounter any major important folders. I guess Revo did what it is was made for.

You hit the nail on the head in section 3.
You also alluded to do a system repair with a genuine Installation disk, but I wonder how it will repair a folder in Program Files or Windows.
If it's not much to ask, could you clarify on that what my options are?

Yep, I tried Ubuntu, man its like Chinese for a frst timer.
Did managed to do the RMDIR in prompt from within Ubuntu and not suprisingly I've got the same result as in DOS or Windows. " Cannot find directory..."

So I'm back at the drawing table...
Thanks for the help so far buddy.
 

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    2 Seagate disks.
    Internal 1 TeraByte and external USB 1 TeraByte.
    Keyboard
    Microsoft eHome Remote Control
    Mouse
    HID - compliant mouse
    Internet Speed
    10475 kbps dwnld and 488 kbps upld
Right!
Read through everything posted, here's what I'm going to do. This post will be edited alot since I'm going to be booting to and from Ubuntu and Seven, so if I confuse you in any way on how this post will be edited, please shout.

Okay, going to boot to Ubuntu now. *posted*

EDIT:
I'm rushing this, i'll boot the live CD on my computer and go thru it there.

Just a thought.
Have you tried to move the problem folder to another folder, then tried deleting the problem folder? Sometimes that works, it's worth a try...

Hi Danny

If you mean moving the folder in Windows, then the answer is yes.
We tried almost anything and nothing helped.
Shadowjk said that you know alot from Ubuntu, so maybe it would be better if I boot from cd in Ubuntu too, and come back to this thread via Firefox?
Do you have a specific hour of the day that you're available so I can tune in?

See ya, Carlo
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion m9480
    CPU
    Intel core 2 quad 2.50GHz
    Motherboard
    American Megatrends 5.43 16/09/2010
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 120
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG
    Screen Resolution
    1360-768
    Hard Drives
    2 Seagate disks.
    Internal 1 TeraByte and external USB 1 TeraByte.
    Keyboard
    Microsoft eHome Remote Control
    Mouse
    HID - compliant mouse
    Internet Speed
    10475 kbps dwnld and 488 kbps upld
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