Asking for help reviving an older machine?

[VistaHome32]

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OK, it has been a while since I started this Vista PC (since it having troubles), but am now seeing if I can ask some experts here for a little help? This machine/OS has been giving me sone screwy problems (sys restore not working, win update was giving quite a few problems, even some of the tools were acting like portions of the programs were corrupted). I tried sfc but it found nothing. I finally found a system disk (DVD) with all the versions of Vista Ultimate, and am wondering if I can use it to FIX the files so they actually work again (yes, even though sfc didn't find anything to fix, I am thinking the OS is corrupted somewhere).

I have a few games and programs that I cannot find the disks to (a couple were downloads paid for and maybe stored on the multutude of HDD's scattered around), the hiccups affect the games and programs. I am not sure it is a hardware problem (a few mini-strokes makes this effort harder). I know I can easily wipe the system BUT this was an update to Ultimate from Home, and I have no idea where the new key is (and if it will still be able to validate by phone from Microsoft). Also, the games and programs issue...

So, IS there a way to reinstall/repair without losing everything AND without having to a long convoluted step by step procedure (those mini-strokes sure limit my thinking processes).

Thanks if possible, but if too complicated I just might as well give up completely(?)...

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[wither 3]

Just so you know, I'm not an expert. Have you tried running CHKDSK C: /F /R from the Command Prompt. Win update won't work since there's no available files online.

 

[lmacri]

This machine/OS has been giving me sone screwy problems (sys restore not working, win update was giving quite a few problems, even some of the tools were acting like portions of the programs were corrupted). I tried sfc but it found nothing.

Hi VistaHome32:

Microsoft deactivated their Windows Update servers for Win XP and Vista on 03-Aug-2020, and the Microsoft support article Windows Update SHA-1 Based Endpoints Discontinued for Older Windows Devices includes examples of error messages you will typically see if you try to run Windows Update on a Vista SP2 machine after that date. This means you can no longer use Windows Update to patch a Vista SP2 OS that is missing security updates released before the end of extended support on 11-Apr-2017, and any attempt to repair your Vista system files is not going to fix your Windows Update errors.

See my 12-Jan-2025 post in Vista2025's Error 80072EFE about a tool called Legacy Update that might help you patch your Vista SP2 OS to the end of extended support.

I finally found a system disk (DVD) with all the versions of Vista Ultimate, and am wondering if I can use it to FIX the files so they actually work again ... IS there a way to reinstall/repair without losing everything AND without having to a long convoluted step by step procedure

See Brink's August 2007 tutorial How To Perform a Repair Installation For Vista. I have no idea if those instructions still work in 2025 (especially the final steps that describe how to reactivate your Vista license), but see the warning at the top of that tutorial that states in part:

You must have Retail Full or Upgrade Vista installation DVD to do this....The Vista installation DVD that you use to do the repair (upgrade) install must be the same or newer version of Vista with the Windows Updates and SP level than what you currently have installed. If the DVD is a older version, then you cannot do a repair (upgrade) install with it.

If you own a second computer with a newer, supported OS I'd suggest you just move on and not waste your time trying to revive your old Vista machine. If the hardware for your Vista computer is still in good working order you might consider re-purposing it by installing a fully supported Linux distro like Linux Mint Cinnamon - see my 27-Jun-2025 post in ljubisa86's BSOD when upgrading XP to Vista for more information.

 

[wither 3]

Now there's a real expert.
Nice description.

 

[Vistaar]

...If you own a second computer with a newer, supported OS I'd suggest you just move on and not waste your time trying to revive your old Vista machine. ..

That’s some of the best advice I’ve seen at this forum in recent years. And if you don’t have a newer computer, then buy one! A Vista PC is just an old toy to tinker with. I’m not sure why Imacri thinks VistaHome32 needs a link for that Legacy Update hack though, considering that security updates from previous decades are worthless now. I don’t think it even existed when Imacri had a Vista system to update, and I don’t know of any Vista user who has reported success with it.

 

[wither 3]

I don't think "A Vista Pc is just an old toy to tinker with". I do anything I need to with it. Of course, I no longer have an up to date anti-virus and a lot of my programs have updates that I can't install.

 

[Jody Thornton]

That’s some of the best advice I’ve seen at this forum in recent years. And if you don’t have a newer computer, then buy one! A Vista PC is just an old toy to tinker with. I’m not sure why Imacri thinks VistaHome32 needs a link for that Legacy Update hack though, considering that security updates from previous decades are worthless now. I don’t think it even existed when Imacri had a Vista system to update, and I don’t know of any Vista user who has reported success with it.

I finally ditched all of my Vista PCs, my last being a Dell notebook. I've pretty much standardized on Windows 8, which while old, I was able to update up to October 2003 (correction, I did mean 2023), and can run forks of modern browsers (such as r3dFox and Supermium). I just want to run an OS I like for one more year. Then I'll move to Windows 10 LTSC 2019 until 2030.

 

[Volume Z]

I do not understand what "Update Windows 8 up to October 2003" means.

 

[Vistaar]

I do not understand what "Update Windows 8 up to October 2003" means.

Hello Volume Z. I’m sure that “2003” was a typo, and that Jody Thornton used Server 2012 updates to patch Windows 8 up to 2023.

Since you’re here, I’ll ask if Windows Update still works for Windows 7 SP1 after installing the necessary update for Windows Update Agent?

 

[Jody Thornton]

I do not understand what "Update Windows 8 up to October 2003" means.

Exactly what Vistaar said

 

[Volume Z]

Since you’re here, I’ll ask if Windows Update still works for Windows 7 SP1 after installing the necessary update for Windows Update Agent?

Sure.

 

[APancreas493]

I finally found a system disk (DVD) with all the versions of Vista Ultimate, and am wondering if I can use it to FIX the files so they actually work again (yes, even though sfc didn't find anything to fix, I am thinking the OS is corrupted somewhere).

So, IS there a way to reinstall/repair without losing everything AND without having to a long convoluted step by step procedure (those mini-strokes sure limit my thinking processes).

If you do have an installation DVD, you can reinstall Windows Vista or upgrade based on the ISO optical image (e.g., upgrade to a Service Pack or different build. There is also a repair option). However, this may be complicated due to the fact that some methods, such as USB booting, might not be enabled by default in the BIOS settings. Secure Boot and UEFI are not compatible with Vista either. If you don't, many sources online such as the Internet Archive contain older software, including Windows Vista.

The least destructive path for you would likely be an in-place upgrade. This saves your files and upgrades to the target version of the installation media.

I will now list the steps to create bootable Vista media

CD Drives

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Unfortunately, because of the traditional CD limit, you would need ~4-7 CDs (depends on the ISO size, divide the ISO size in MB by 700 and round that to the nearest integer) each with a portion of the Windows Vista Setup, which is rare to find these ISO images as DVDs became more popular in this era, but you can see the related forum thread:
Windows Vista on 5 CDs?

USB Drives

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Luckily, Windows Vista has standard USB support. To create bootable media for Windows Vista on a USB thumb drive, you can follow the steps:
1. Download a Windows Vista ISO file depending on what version and edition you want. Because Microsoft is focusing on newer operating systems, official downloads have been closed off but some mirrors are available from official MSN servers.
2. Use any third-party tool that can copy the contents to the USB drive and configure many mechanisms needed to boot from the thumb drive.
3. If the process is finished, insert the final USB drive into the target PC, power it on, and enter the boot menu (knowing your BIOS key)

DVD Drives

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Windows Vista was meant to be installed this way. Because you noted you already have a DVD (specifying what DVD it is may help), it may be an installation DVD, meaning you can insert it into the target PC and power it on, then access the boot menu and select, "DVD Drive" or, more commonly, "CD-ROM Drive" in the selection menu using arrow keys and ENTER to select. Reinstalling Windows Vista may help if you suspect the operating system itself is corrupted.

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About product activation, your computer may have a COA (Certification of Authenticity) sticker on the underside or side of it, or in the case of the DVD case it came in. If not, you can use programs such as KeyFinder Thing or others to find your Windows product key. Otherwise, you can contact your retailer for the product key. As a last resort, you can buy a new product key for the edition you need, or use Telephone Activation.

However, it can also be in a SLIC table inside of your BIOS, which contains Software Licensing data. Some pieces of software have been known implement a custom bootloader such as GRUB to simulate a SLIC table in the BIOS (known as the developer activation patch), therefore activating Windows Vista without a license.

 

[APancreas493]

If you do have an installation DVD, you can reinstall Windows Vista or upgrade based on the ISO optical image (e.g., upgrade to a Service Pack or different build. There is also a repair option). However, this may be complicated due to the fact that some methods, such as USB booting, might not be enabled by default in the BIOS settings. Secure Boot and UEFI are not compatible with Vista either. If you don't, many sources online such as the Internet Archive contain older software, including Windows Vista.

The least destructive path for you would likely be an in-place upgrade. This saves your files and upgrades to the target version of the installation media.

I will now list the steps to create bootable Vista media

CD Drives

---

Unfortunately, because of the traditional CD limit, you would need ~4-7 CDs (depends on the ISO size, divide the ISO size in MB by 700 and round that to the nearest integer) each with a portion of the Windows Vista Setup, which is rare to find these ISO images as DVDs became more popular in this era, but you can see the related forum thread:
Windows Vista on 5 CDs?

USB Drives

---

Luckily, Windows Vista has standard USB support. To create bootable media for Windows Vista on a USB thumb drive, you can follow the steps:
1. Download a Windows Vista ISO file depending on what version and edition you want. Because Microsoft is focusing on newer operating systems, official downloads have been closed off but some mirrors are available from official MSN servers.
2. Use any third-party tool that can copy the contents to the USB drive and configure many mechanisms needed to boot from the thumb drive.
3. If the process is finished, insert the final USB drive into the target PC, power it on, and enter the boot menu (knowing your BIOS key)

DVD Drives

---

Windows Vista was meant to be installed this way. Because you noted you already have a DVD (specifying what DVD it is may help), it may be an installation DVD, meaning you can insert it into the target PC and power it on, then access the boot menu and select, "DVD Drive" or, more commonly, "CD-ROM Drive" in the selection menu using arrow keys and ENTER to select. Reinstalling Windows Vista may help if you suspect the operating system itself is corrupted.

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About product activation, your computer may have a COA (Certification of Authenticity) sticker on the underside or side of it, or in the case of the DVD case it came in. If not, you can use programs such as KeyFinder Thing or others to find your Windows product key. Otherwise, you can contact your retailer for the product key. As a last resort, you can buy a new product key for the edition you need, or use Telephone Activation.

However, it can also be in a SLIC table inside of your BIOS, which contains Software Licensing data. Some pieces of software have been known implement a custom bootloader such as GRUB to simulate a SLIC table in the BIOS (known as the developer activation patch), therefore activating Windows Vista without a license.

I want to correct that the mention of SLIC emulation may be inappropriate to the subject given here and I want to mention that many of the above comments are also right.

 

[APancreas493]

I want to correct that the mention of SLIC emulation may be inappropriate to the subject given here and I want to mention that many of the above comments are also right.

I included the detail of SLIC emulation since Vista keys are scarce to find today, as well as legitimate licensing via phone is harder to achieve as servers have shut down after the EOL of Vista, although not ideal on the legitimacy side.