Disk Management - Shrink Partition

ripbox

Nerd
Vista Pro
after spending many hours formatting and re installing vista and software iv just ran into a bit of a problem....
i was going to install 7 beta on my D: drive (dual boot) but i got a message saying windows couldn't be installed on the drive....
so i booted back to vista on C: and went straight to disc management looking at my drive configurations
for some reason my D: drive is showing as dynamic type
so how do i go about turning D: back to a basic volume?

UPDATE:
Ah ok i found something in the M$ website telling me to backup all the data the delete the volume.... i did so, made a quick format and its now back to a bisic drive:geek:
 

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Brink

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mvp
Hi Ripbox,

I'm happy to hear that you got it sorted. Thank you for sharing your results. :)

Shawn
 

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Guy with a Colt

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Hi Brink.
I have a problem.

I have
Seagate 1TB HDD (1 partition 931.51GB, with 729.58GB free (78% free))
12 in 1 internal card reader
1 DVD-R/RW
I have Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x64
3Gb ram

I tried to shrink my Hard drive

my plan is:
c: = 500gb
new partition = 100gb
" " = 100gb
" " = whats remaining

when I try to shrink, it successfully shows me how much I can shrink, which is 22MB o.O :huh:

I tried disk cleanup, it cleaned 3GB
Tried again, and it's still 22MB o.O :confused:

What can I do? Besides formatting and reinstalling vista x64
 

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Brink

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mvp
Hello Guy with a Colt, and welcome to Vista Forums.

Double check with the WARNING under step 6 (STEP ONE section) to see if that may be the case and with your max System Restore disk space usage.

Hope this helps for now,
Shawn
 

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Guy with a Colt

New Member
Thanks Brink.
I disabled Restore points and I was able to use the available 729.58GB

On one of the partitions I now have Windows 7, so I now dual boot Vista, XP (as some games and apps dont work or not compatible with vista), Windows 7.

Why am I trying Windows 7? (some may ask.)
Because I enjoy testing operating systems. Been doing this since windows 95 ;)
 

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Brink

Staff member
mvp
You're welcome Guy with a Colt. I'm happy to hear that you got it sorted. :)

I hear you. I'm testing Windows 7 as well. :geek:
 

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Everlong

To xor or not to xor
Vista Guru
Thanks Brink, just used this to partition my second hard drive to get Windows 7 beta it's own space :)
 

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Brink

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mvp
You're welcome Everlong.

After you install Windows 7, you may notice that the Vista partition may not show up in the Computer window in Windows 7. If this happens to you, then you will just need to add a driver letter to the Vista partition in Windows 7 Disk Management for it to show up.
 

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Everlong

To xor or not to xor
Vista Guru
It was fine, Brink. Installed it last night after it downloaded (took a while) and all partitions showed up fine :)
 

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Brink

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mvp
Ok good. :)
 

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efi027

New Member
HI,

Cant you make the Size of Available Shrink Space any bigger?
I have 700Gb. I splitted HDD into 2 partitions using your method Shawn[Brink] (thanks by the way)
Now I got C: 450 D:250
But I wanted C: 150 D:550

Please Help. I will delete 2nd partition (D) if needed to.
Thanks
 

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Brink

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mvp
Hello EFI027, and welcome to Vista Forums.

Unless you use some 3rd party partitioning program to make the change instead of using Vista's Disk Management, then you will need to delete the D: partition and extend C: into D:, then shrink C: again for the correct size. (1 GB = 1024 MB)

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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Dave76

Member
Hi Brink,
Was hoping you could give me some advice. Have been trying to shrink (OS) C: to about 160GB so I can increase (Data)D: to 300GB or so, have followed this tutorial and changed the recommended settings but still no joy.
When I got this desktop (Dell i530) the first day I added a partition from drive C, the max it would allow was C: 292GB and D: 163GB, leaving the Dell recovery now F: at 10GB.
I use the C: drive for the operating system and D: drive for data.
When I click shrink on drive C it gives me 1.2GB available to shrink, Drive C is 292GB total with 43GB used.
Have done the following as recommended:
Changed the System Restore Space Usage amount, C: drive only checked
Changed the System Restore Automatic settings
Changed the Virtual Memory Paging File min/max size
Ran Disk cleanup to reduce number of restore points

I have Paragon Hard Disk Manager and it won’t let ‘Redistribute Free Space’.
When I select D: to enlarge I get “Operation failed, No free space (can’t create partition of requested size). Not sure why it’s doing that. It says you can use the ‘Redistribute Free Space’ option if the partitions are next to each other. These are when I look at them in Vista Disk Manager but, when I look at them in Paragon Hard Disk Manager I see this info, check the attachment (sorry about the file).

There is a small volume between C: and D: with no drives letter (unallocated), size 843 KB type 'Free Space', strangely it shows Used as 2047.9GB on the numarical window, in the lower window (graphical) it shows 'Used 0 bytes'. Can't do anything with it, tried to format it, tried to assign a drive letter so I could delete or merge it.
Do you think this is the reason it won't let me ‘Redistribute Free Space’?
Any other options I might try?
Thanks for any help,
Dave
 

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Brink

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mvp
Hello Dave,

Looking at your image, about the only thing you can do that would be easy is to delete the D: partition, extend C: into the deleted D: partition, then shrink C: by how much you would like for D: , and create and format D.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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    512 GB M.2 SSD

Dave76

Member
When the computer was new I did that and ended up with C: 292GB and D: 163GB. With out finding the underlying issue, can't see how it would be different this time?

Found this from the MS site just a few minutes ago. It's a reply to the question of why you only get 1-6GB available to shrink for a partition with 250GB of free space.

“This is probably a function of how the disk was partitioned and setup by the maker of the system. Many OEM system makers will establish a recovery partition as the first partition physically on the drive. Then they create the "C:" partition second, making their first partition appear to be "D:" in most cases. This prevents the built in repartitioniong software from resizing C:. If D: was removed (not recomended, and would void your warrantee and support), you would probably find more than 6 megs to play with."

Partitoning Vista (c) drive with built-in Vista tool

First time I have seen this issue, Does it sound reasonable to you?
Any ideas?


Any ideas why Paragon Hard Disk Manager won't do anything with it?
What's that small 'partition' in front of the D: drive?

Would the command prompt approach work for me?

Thanks again,
Dave
 

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Brink

Staff member
mvp
The small 63MB partition is used to restore the drivers and applications that came with your computer.

I'm not exactly sure why Paragon cannot change anything for you other than the message it gave you.

The post at the link you provided does make sense though. Do you have a Dell Vista recovery disc?
 

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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
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    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
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    1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2,
    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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    Linksys EA9500 router,
    Arris SB8200 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Lumia 1520 phone
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Dave76

Member
Hello Brink,

Thanks for the reply.
I do have the Dell recovery disk, the Dell re-installation disk and the drivers installation disk. I asked for the complete set when ordering the desktop.
Correct me if I'm wrong but, I thought the 10GB partition which came installed labeled 'Recovery D:' was the recovery partition.
I know only a little about computers but am trying to learn.
Thought I read somewhere that this 63MB was a boot partition. I'm probably wrong about that. It must be holding the current drivers and programs, seems to be a small space to hold much of anything. Might be the 'boot disk' that your link to Dell talks about.
The Recovery D: (I changed to Recovery F:) has a 'Factory.wim' 4.6GB file and what appears to me to be other installation files, again, I may be wrong on exactly what this is for.
I've read on the Dell community site that a lot of Dell users delete that partition and use the recovery CD and re-installation DVD instead. Not sure if that would cause warranty problems. Wouldn't think so as long as you have a way to re-install the OS.

Paragon says it can 'Redistribute free space' if the two partitions are next to each other. First you click the partition you want to enlarge, thats when I get the 'Operation failed' message, then you click next and click on the partition you want to take the 'free space' from, but won't let me get that far.

From what I saw on the last link sent, about the recovery partition being the first one on the Disk0 will cause the second partition to not be able to give any shrinkage, could I move or copy then delete the recovery partition? Then adjust the C and D partitions, then add another partition at the end and make it the recovery partition?
If I understand this right, I won't be able to do anything with the 10GB of now unallocated space that's in front of the C partition. Not the best senerio but, would I be able to adjust both C and D partitions then?

I just went to Paragon Hard Disk Manager and selected C: to expand and then it let me go to the next window and I selected Recovery F: to take the free space from, it will let me take all of the 4.5GB of free space.
Do you think If I delete the Recovery F: partition that I can add that unallocated space into the C: partition?
With this first partition removed can I then resize both C and D to my desired volumes?

Do you see any problem with copying the Recovery (on my computer I changed it from D to F) drive F: 10GB partition, then delete it, extend C: into the unallocated space.
This would make the C: partition the first partition on Disk0. Then, hopefully, I could adjust C: and D: partitions to my desired size.
Then add the 10GB F: partition after the D: partition and copy the recovery files back to there.

The current order on Disk0:
63MB small partition, EISA Configuration
10GB Recovery F:, Primary Partition
292GB OS C:, Primary Partition, System, Boot, Page File, Crash dump
163GB Data D:, Logical Drive

What I would like to have:
63MB small partition, EISA Configuration
150GB OS C:, Primary Partition, System, Boot, Page File, Crash dump
305GB Data D:, Logical Drive
10GB Recovery F:, Primary Partition (or?)

I'm hoping not to lose any files on the C drive. I can copy/backup and restore the D and F drives if needed.

Any thoughts?
To be safe should I just leave it alone until I'm ready to do a clean install?

Thanks for any feedback,
Dave
 

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Brink

Staff member
mvp
Well, it's up to you, but since you have both sets of recovery disks (Vista & Drivers/Applications), then you could delete both the 63MB (twice) and F partitions to save more space. Afterwards, see if you can extend C: into the one's you just deleted to now only have C and D partitions. Now, see if you can shrink C to extend D into that.

If you still can't, then delete D as well and extend C until it is the only partition left. Next, shrink C by how much you want for the D drive.

To be safe, I would recommend that you backup anything that you do not want to lose.
 

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    512 GB M.2 SSD

Dave76

Member
Hello Brink,

Well, I think I solved it.
Decided to get Easeus Partition Master and try it.
Shrank C (OS) partition to 160GB and put the 140GB into D(Data) partition.
Everything is running great as before.
Then just to check it out a little more I shrank the 10GB recovery drive to 8GB, has 5.6GB used, and added it to the C(OS) partition, worked with no problem.
Not sure why Paragon wouldn't do it.

Hope this helps anyone that has the same issues, It can be done.

Regards,
Dave
 

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    Intel Core i5-3570k 4.6GHz
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    Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H, SATA 6Gb/s USB 3
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    8GB DDR3 1600 CORSAIR Vengence C8 1.5v
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X 1GB DDR5
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    Realtek HD Audio ALC889 Integrated Chip
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    Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD, Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache,
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    Speed is not the word I would use to describe it!
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Brink

Staff member
mvp
Dave,

I'm happy to hear that you got it sorted out. Not sure why Paragon didn't work for you either, but it would have been nice to have been able to do it from within Vista using Disk Management instead. Microsoft probably couldn't do it without getting another antitrust lawsuit on them again though.
 

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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2,
    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    Linksys EA9500 router,
    Arris SB8200 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Lumia 1520 phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
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