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General Tips Disk Management - Shrink Partition

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I'm assuming that the 127.76 GB partition was suppose to be the D: drive? Correct me if I'm wrong. If so, then somehow it was converted to a EISA partiton instead of a normal Basic Primary partition.

Are you able to right click on the 127.76 GB partition and add a drive letter to it?
 

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Phil,

If you have not already, go ahead and create a set of Acer Vista Recovery discs so you will have a way to restore Vista if need be.

Afterwards, see if you can use a program like Gparted to delete that partition so it is "Unallocated Space" again, and create a new "Simple Volume" with it instead.
 

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I shrunk my C: drive and at the end of the wizard I checked quick format. The wizard disappeared and a new box popped up to format saying I had to format it to use it. I checked quick format again and then was told that I couldn't format it because it was in use. So I closed it. Yet when I look at it in Disk Management it says I have a Simple Basic NFTS H: 78.12 GB Healthy (Primary Partition).

So, what is going on? I am afraid to do anything to it right now, or to shut down my computer, even.
 

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Hello Oldroser,

You may have just accidentally opened the wizard twice giving you the in use error. As long as Disk Management shows it has a healthy partition you should be fine. :)
 

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You're welcome. :)
 

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Hello Jsomodio, and welcome to Vista Forums.

Could you post a screenshot of your Disk Management window? This will help see what your drive layout is and what options you may have to able to expand the C: drive or not into the D: drive. :)
 

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Hi Brink,

I apologies for this very late reply, I was so very busy last week, I was not able open my inbox. Here is the sreenshot of my Disk management. screenshotjulius.jpg .

I hope you can find a solution to this.

Thanks, Julius
 

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Is there a way to extend primary volume (drive C:)? I only have 200MB free space on drive C: but I enough free space on my drive D:. . . please help. . .
Hi Brink,

I apologies for this very late reply, I was so very busy last week, I was not able open my inbox. Here is the sreenshot of my Disk management. View attachment 17730 .

I hope you can find a solution to this.

Thanks, Julius
No problem Julius,

You will not be able to use Disk Management to extend the C: drive, but you should be able to using a 3rd party program like Gparted or Partition Wizard Home Edition. Just do not mess with the 13.81 EISA partition. That is your OEM Vista factory recovery partition. Without it, you would not be able to restore (reinstall) Vista.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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bk201

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Hello. Don't really have a problem, just wanna make sure of a couple of things b4 i do anything. My laptop came with 2 partitions... each 232-ish gb.. first one with windows, second one has the recovery things i need to restore to factory state. First I used the disk management to shrink C:. Max available to shrink was about 115-116 so half, same ratio as in the tutorial (curious why can't you shrink it more? perhaps only with third party program). All things well i got the new partition, however is it a problem it says it is a logical drive, instead of primary partition as in the tutorial?.

In any case last thing, the other partition the laptop came with, has the HDD recovery folder in it and it takes up arround 7 gbs. When i try to shrink that partition it says quite correctly it's able to shrink by 225gb-ish which is the total- what HDD recovery takes up. Doing the shrinking would not affect the recovery thing i'm hoping:)?.
This drive is "Healthy(Primary Parition)" doesn't have that Eisa configuration characteristic a previous user posted:D

Sry for so many nubish questions, just want to be clear on some things.
Thanks for your time, cheers. :D
 

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Hello BK, and welcome to Vista Forums.

It's most likely a logical partition since it was created between the two partitions, but I would need to see a screenshot of your Disk Management to be sure. It will still work just fine as a logical partition though.


I would not touch your recovery partition. Doing so could render it unusable. To be safe you should create a set of recovery discs as a backup in case something should happen to the HDD or the recovery partition. You should have a "OEM Recovery Manager" type program shortcut in your Start Menu to use to do so.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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bk201

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Yes well, it ain't like on other systems where they make a partition for the recovery roughly the same size as the recovery thing. On mine recovery folder is like 7 gb on a 232 size partition. I've already used the Toshiba Recovery Media Creator to backup on 2 dvds. Actually i could just as well delete the recovery on the hdd as i've already saved it.

To sum up... 2 questions.
1. Leaving the partition with the recovery on it intact,full size... and filling it up with data leaves the recovery thing fully functional right? it's not as it would need 1 partition just for itself.
2. Disk management can only shrink the windows drive to 115-ish out of 232. For further shrinking i would definitely need third party program?
 

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Unless you just really needed the hard drive space, I would leave the recovery partition to be safe. Burned DVDs can tend to get damaged, lost, or no longer work for some odd reason. If that should happen, you would have a problem without the recovery partition.

Q1) I wouldn't touch or save anything to the recovery partition to avoid it becoming unusable. It needs that extra space for working purpose while doing a factory restore.

Q2) Yes, for further shinking, you would need a 3rd party program.
 

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bk201

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"Unless you just really needed the hard drive space" that's really it isn't it?:D Not touching that space would mean 232gb unused out of my 460 gb hard disk which is half... huge in my oppinion. I think I'm quite willing to risk having to do a windows reinstall if smth should happen. That's why instead of delaying and saving stuff on that big partition with the recovery and risk smth happen to it latter, i'd probably rather partition it now... leave a 10 gb space for the recovery alone, let it stay there by itself. And if smth should happen the DVD's are quite fresh and almost definitely undamaged :D able to work. Will see anyway.
Thanks for your help. Happy new year mate:) and every1.

P.S. Restoring the system with the disks i've created would mean not only the windows 64 bit reinstall but it would also come with the additional software i had when i recorded those disks. Only a clean windows reinstall would lead to the "cleaning" of the junk software the producers put on the laptop i reckon?. Getting rid of those speeds up the system as i've heard
 

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You're welcome BK. Have happy new year as well. :)
 

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