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Oldschool297

New Member
I have a vintage computer with agp graphics. What is the biggest Nvidia card i can have? I have a Nvidia GeForce 5200fx that gives 2.4 in total in experience points.

AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ E22M KM400. 2gb ddr.​

 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows Vista ultimate.

wither 3

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Hi Oldschool297-

You might take a look at this-

 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

wither 3

Vista Guru
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Did you have time to take a look at the link?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
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    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

Oldschool297

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Yes sorry for the late reply. I am very thankful for the link. I guess 512mb is the highest for this motherboard? GeForce seems better than Radeon? Drivers are more easy to find. The 512mb wasn't a low profile card as my GeForce 5200fx 128mb. Is low profile better?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows Vista ultimate.

wither 3

Vista Guru
Gold Member
When you talk about "biggest," are you talking about physical size (low profile, etc.)? That should only be a concern if the card wouldn't fit in the case or it prevented installing other cards adjacent to it. What are you wanting to do in regards to your graphics card?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

Oldschool297

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I want to have a Nvidia card with greatest performance for my vintage computer. Does a greater graphic card improve playing of 720p? Now i only can play them in mpeg4 on my vintage computer.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows Vista ultimate.

wither 3

Vista Guru
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That's strange. Just about any graphics card would support mpeg-2 (720p). What happens when you try to play a video other than a mpeg-4?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

Oldschool297

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It lagging and stucks after some seconds. I guess a old 1,89 processor from early 2000s can't handle it. It is almost H.264 codecs on all 720p. I think that codec is to powerful for one of my vintage computer.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows Vista ultimate.

wither 3

Vista Guru
Gold Member
Mpeg-2 dates back to 1995 and mpeg-1 is earlier. I don't think that's the issue. I'm guessing it's a problem with the video.

Can you upload one of the videos that causes this problem to a website such as dropbox, wetransfer, one drive, etc. and share it? After sharing, get a link and post the link here.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

Oldschool297

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It's the same for all videos in 720p H.264. I can only play 720p if i convert to 720p with mpeg4 codec. And with max 30fps in framerate on my vintage computer.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows Vista ultimate.

wither 3

Vista Guru
Gold Member
H.264 is mpg-4. That doesn't mean it can't be 720p.

Go here- MediaInfo and download/install media info.

Open one of the videos that you haven't converted in it. Click on View, then Tree. Provide a screenshot which shows the video and audio characteristics.

Also, what are you using to play the videos and what are you converting them with?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

Joadix100

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I have a vintage computer with agp graphics. What is the biggest Nvidia card i can have? I have a Nvidia GeForce 5200fx that gives 2.4 in total in experience points.

AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ E22M KM400. 2gb ddr.​

2.4 on Windows Experience Index??? dude, the Intel 965 ECF gives 3.1
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire ES1-571-38TE
    CPU
    Intel Core i3-5005u
    Motherboard
    Acer Aspire
    Memory
    16GB DDR3L SODIMM 1600MHz (2x8GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 5500
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Integrated monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Crucial BX500 SSD 1TB
    Cooling
    Integrated
    Mouse
    Trust GXT 152
    Keyboard
    Integrated
    Internet Speed
    40Mbps/10Mbps
    Other Info
    https://www.acer.com/ac/es/AR/content/support-product/6654?b=1&pn=NX.GCEAL.004
  • Operating System
    Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 x86
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 5315
    CPU
    Intel Celeron 540
    Motherboard
    Acer Arcadia
    Memory
    2GB DDR2 SODIMM 533MHz (2x1GB)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 965 Express Chipset Family
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Integrated
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 700GB SATA3
    Cooling
    Integrated
    Mouse
    Logitech M170
    Keyboard
    Integrated
    Internet Speed
    40Mbps/10Mbps
    Other Info
    https://www.acer.com/ac/es/AR/content/support-product/50?b=1

lmacri

Vista Pro
... Also, what are you using to play the videos and what are you converting them with?

Hi Oldschool297:

As wither 3 requested, it would be helpful if you could let us know which browser and/or media player you are using to try to play these problem 720p videos.

If you haven't tried Mozilla's Firefox ESR v52.9.0 browser (the final legacy version for Win XP and Vista released 26-Jun-2018), full offline installers (all regions and languages) are available for download from Mozilla's FTP server at Directory Listing: /pub/firefox/releases/52.9.0esr/win32/ (note that 32-bit Firefox ESR is recommended for both 32-bit and 64-bit Vista SP2). If you want the English-US installer (Firefox Setup 52.9.0esr.exe), for example, choose the /EN-US subfolder. Firefox ESR v52.9.0 supports TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 protocols for connecting to secure https sites by default, and I would recommend that you add the latest TLS 1.3 support to your Firefox ESR v52.9.0 browser [i.e., by changing security.tls.version.max to a value of 4 (TLS 1.3) in the advanced browser settings] as instructed in Martin Brinkmann's June 2017 ghacks.net article How to Enable TLS 1.3 Support in Firefox and Chrome.

A third-party media player like VideoLAN's VLC Media Player might also play your videos correctly.

Do you know if your Vista SP2 was patched to the end of extended support (11-Apr-2017) before Microsoft deactivated the Windows Update servers for Win XP and Vista in August 2020? If you aren't sure that Windows Update delivered the last batch of security updates for Vista SP2 in April 2017 open your IE9 browser, go to Help | About Internet Explorer, and see if IE9 was patched to Update Versions 9.0.60 / KB4014661 (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 9: April 11, 2017) as shown below.

IE9 Version KB4014661 April 2017.png

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32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Firefox ESR v52.9.0 * Malwarebytes Premium v3.5.1-1.0.365 * 32-bit VLC Media Player v3.0.12
HP Pavilion dv6835ca, Intel Core2Duo T5550 @ 1.83 GHz, 3 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
 
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My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    32-bit Vista SP2 Home Premium
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion dv6835ca
    CPU
    Intel Core2Duo T5550 @ 1.83 GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 30D2 (U2E1)
    Memory
    3 GB RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    250 GB SATA Western Digital Scorpio WD2500BEVS 5400 rpm
    Internet Speed
    5 MBps
    Other Info
    Malwarebytes Premium v3.5.1-1.0.365

Vistaar

Vista Guru
What did April 2017 security updates have to do with playing h.264 videos? Absolutely nothing! If IE9 is present at all, then Vista has a system decoder for h.264. (Of course that has absolutely nothing to do with Firefox 52, which was designed for Windows XP and therefore has its own h.264 decoder - which has absolutely nothing to do with playback of converted videos using unnamed software.) The OP is likely correct in thinking his old hardware isn’t up to the challenge of HD playback, and checking for outdated security updates to satisfy Imacri isn’t going to solve that.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x86 SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Elite m9150f
    CPU
    Intel Q6600
    Memory
    3 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT

townsbg

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I think that the OP's CPU is also a factor. It's fairly weak especially if it is only single core. You might be trying to put a demand on your computer that it can't handle. The CPU also factors into graphics capabilities. You still haven't mentioned all of your computer's specs. Only the card and CPU speed plus the OS. But hey, we know.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt

wither 3

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I'd still like to see the characteristics for one of those videos. However, I'm not sure we'll get around response from the author.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

townsbg

~~тσωηsвg~~
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I just looked up the processor and it's single core with no hyper-threading. Not exactly an impressive processor by any stretch of imagination.
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt

Vistaar

Vista Guru
A year ago I might have suggested installing Windows XP on the hardware, since it was less demanding of system resources than Vista or newer. Of course now you would either have to find a custom ISO of XP distributed without Microsoft’s permission, or else forget about all the ancient security updates (not that they would have any real value in 2021). The best solution is of course a new PC.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x86 SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Elite m9150f
    CPU
    Intel Q6600
    Memory
    3 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT

townsbg

~~тσωηsвg~~
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Agreed however his description of "vintage computer" makes me think that it isn't his primary computer but one that he wants to keep around. However I'm not going to assume anything because you know what that means. I hope it isn't the primary computer. It's likely a 12 yo computer that was low end at the time. I have such a computer (actually an older one that came with XP) but I keep it in a box.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt

townsbg

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That processor was released in '02 and although i couldn't find out when it was discontinued I suspect the OP's computer came with XP on it. I had a Athlon XP 3800+ dual core and that wasn't too terribly impressive. With only 2 gb ram IMO you can't expect very much from such a computer now and it's barely capable of running Vista. Personally I would put 7 on it rather than to try and hang onto Vista. 7 seems to perform better.

@Oldschool297 you mentioned that your experience index is 2.4? What exactly has that value? If the 2.4 is for the processor than a new graphics card won't improve that.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
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