Windows Vista Dissapoints me and many others

[alienware09]

Hello Windows Vista Forums,

Going on this excellent forum as made me realized something. Something that I've even heard from the Microsoft Corporation recently. Windows Vista really isn't that great of an Operating System. Microsoft Corporation even says that Vista was not how they hoped it would be. In my opinion Vista will be outdated earlier than XP.

Have people really ecountered this many problems on XP? I'm sure XP had its fair share of problems and bugs but this many! No, not at all. Windows 7 is said to make Vista as it should have been.

Here is proof that Vista is frankly worse than XP. Look at this Forum. Look at how many problems people are having with Vista. Whether it be compatibility or bugs look how many problems Vista has generated! None of you can deny this...I know people will respond and argue at this, but you really can't can you.

Microsoft's goal was to take XP and make it better. They have failed with Vista. Windows 7 will pass Vista by and Vista will be outdated earlier than XP.

Even on the news you hear it. I heard TODAY on the date of July 13 2009 on Bloomberg 1130 that Vista was a huge BOMB for the Microsoft Corporation, and how dissapointing it was worldwide!

I would advise everybody that currently uses any other OS besides Vista...DONT BUY IT! It's a waste of money!!! Wait for Windows 7, that OS will set things right!

Regards,
alienware09

 

[dbsantos77]

Okay, first off I agree with your post...somewhat.

Sure Vista was uber-terrible when it came out, apps we're incompatible not to mention driver support wasn't the best but that's mostly the manufacturer's fault for not getting ready.

In my experience the only driver issue I encountered was with my Lexmark X8350 Printer. Lexmark released a Vista driver back in 2007...2007! It was first off an incompatible driver that refused to work in a Vista environment, again, that's Lexmarks fault for not making a working one. To date...2009, that is the only driver released. Back from 2007.

When I bought my first Vista PC I was constantly getting Blue screens left and right and it was caused by my Phenom processor having a TLB-bug in one of the cache levels that caused a 20-30 % loss of performance and blue screens, again, that WAS AMD's fault, until Microsoft patched Vista and caused incompatibilities with the Phenom processor.

After SP2, Vista is a solid OS from me. I have used the betas and the RC for a total of about 4 months and Vista boots and shuts down in the same time as 7. Probably because I have a mid to high range computer, (biggest help is the Quad-Core).

All in all I believe that Vista is actually pretty good given that you bother to install the 2 service packs (just like XP), and that the whole "DON'T BUY VISTA" thing is overdone now. As I said, even though Vista had it's faults, you can't give Manufacturers a free ride.

Plus if you buy a Vista PC you'll get a free 7 upgrade. Something I'll probably be doing soon because it's 2 OS's for the price of 1.

 

[alienware09]

Hi dbsantos77,

Hi most definitely agree, but XP didn't have as many issues. That whole buy a new PC with Vista and get a free 7 upgrade is good...but I'd save up for newer PC parts so I can improve performance on my machine and get it ready for Windows 7!
Most very knowledgeable though!

Regards,
alienware09

 

[truthkid]

The fact you argue Vista is bad because people post problems on this forum makes me question how you would say any OS is good. There are hundreds if not thousands of forums to all sorts of OSes on the internet, nothing is going to work perfectly out of the box for everyone. Then to say no one can deny it, you're not making a point to begin with.

I don't think you could have been using a computer when XP came out, because people complained about XP when it came out. There are plenty of people running Vista that have no issues, and they will only see minimal differences in the actual underlying OS when/if they upgrade to Seven. Have you even tried seven yet?

 

[dbsantos77]

Definitely, I know for a fact XP didn't have such a hard time but you have to remember that with Vista Microsoft change many many things with the kernel, explorer, and other components but they we're so careless that they rushed the product out instead of working on it for a bit more.

Basically Microsoft had a genius OS idea back then, but didn't take their time. Same with their Xbox 360 but that's a different story. Hey wait that makes me wonder...
Is there a pattern????

Microsoft releases new product->product released to public->critical issues arise for consumers->consumers extremely angry with product->Microsoft fixes critical issues.

 

[Sbrideau]

I don't know why people always say such negative things about Vista. It's not the OS the problem, it's the user!

Ok, sometimes it's the OS, but if the computer is not made for Vista, why upgrade to Vista?

Take my own experience for example: My computer came with Windows XP. Yet, I kept having programs freezing and never really had viruses. I even had a few blue screens on XP. I then decided to upgrade gradually my computer, until at arrived at the specs I have now. I still had some crashing and freezing.

I have then installed Vista Ultimate x64 to use all the resources my computer could give me. I was really pleased with it, performance wise and the eye candy side. I have used Vista for 5 months now and have yet to have a freeze or a crash. I only encountered one BSOD, and it was my own fault for trying to use more resources than the computer could give me (had filled my RAM and pagefile). I guess that's what too much multitasking can do.

On my computer, Vista is twice the speed XP was (I tried Vista x32 too, just the time I could go without activating, to try it).

Now, most people I talk to in college or other places also say that Vista works better on their computer that came With Vista but doesn't work well for those that upgraded from XP.

Can you explain what happened to me?

 

[dbsantos77]

I don't know why people always say such negative things about Vista. It's not the OS the problem, it's the user!

Ok, sometimes it's the OS, but if the computer is not made for Vista, why upgrade to Vista?

Take my own experience for example: My computer came with Windows XP. Yet, I kept having programs freezing and never really had viruses. I even had a few blue screens on XP. I then decided to upgrade gradually my computer, until at arrived at the specs I have now. I still had some crashing and freezing.

I have then installed Vista Ultimate x64 to use all the resources my computer could give me. I was really pleased with it, performance wise and the eye candy side. I have used Vista for 5 months now and have yet to have a freeze or a crash. I only encountered one BSOD, and it was my own fault for trying to use more resources than the computer could give me (had filled my RAM and pagefile). I guess that's what too much multitasking can do.

On my computer, Vista is twice the speed XP was (I tried Vista x32 too, just the time I could go without activating, to try it).

Now, most people I talk to in college or other places also say that Vista works better on their computer that came With Vista but doesn't work well for those that upgraded from XP.

Can you explain what happened to me?

I dont know if your trying to be sarcastic but my computer was built for vista and I have upgraded this computer. New Power supply to replace the crap 300w, new ATi Radeon 4670 to replace ATi Radeon 2400, stuff like that.

I agree 110% with the User's fault statement, but see, that's why many users decide to go with a Mac, because it just WORKS, and most of the time there's no need to get down and dirty to figure out problems. I for one like to get down and dirty, and I like learning new things to fix Microsoft's screw ups.

 

[Sbrideau]

I like to get down and dirty too :P. That's why the only reason I would buy a mac is just to try out their OS, nothing more. Most of the chances are I'm not going to pay more for a computer just to try their OS :P

 

[dbsantos77]

Fair enough, I actually had an opportunity to work on a Mac a little bit, and I liked it. Anyways before we turn this into a PC v MAC thread those are my takes on Vista. As I said I like it a lot, also like 7's new UI overhaul, but I'll stick with Vista for now
I'm sure Windows 7 will have it's share of problems, then we'll hear "Ugh, darn MS for making another bomb OS, boo", just wait

 

[JMH]

Some people have some problems with some OS.
Some people have no problems with some OS.

Some people believe all they read about OS being good or bad.
Some people believe some of what they read about OS being good or bad.
Some people believe none of what they read about OS being good or bad.

Some people do a lot of "homework" before getting a new OS.


I've been impressed with my edition of Vista. But then it came preloaded on a computer that could handle it easily /successfully.

 

[Frostmourne]

Rubbish. XP was insecure and now its ugly too compared to Vista. For me Vista ran fine if the PC/laptop had a windows experience index as close to 5 if not higher. Vista only refused to run properly on a laptop with 1GB of RAM. I've had no problems that couldn't be fixed, only Starforce refuses to run on some games. Stop complaining and get a PC that has enough balls to run Vista properly. Most likely its the users who have problems, not the OS.

 

[Martee]

Some people have some problems with some OS.
Some people have no problems with some OS.

Some people believe all they read about OS being good or bad.
Some people believe some of what they read about OS being good or bad.
Some people believe none of what they read about OS being good or bad.

Some people do a lot of "homework" before getting a new OS.


I've been impressed with my edition of Vista. But then it came preloaded on a computer that could handle it easily /successfully.

I'm second that.

 

[TeamanFL]

When I bought my desktop PC, XP was not a choice, It had VISTA. Even though I am not thrilled about VISTA, I can't say I would ask HP for my money back (for the PC I bought). The biggest problem I had was with my home network, but I got that fixed with the help of the people on this forum. It took a while to learn where all of the stuff was on VISTA, but I can't say that was anything more than an annoyance.

When I bought my wife a new laptop, it was a different story. One of her programs she uses for her business did not run under VISTA. I bought a copy of XP and installed it instead. The first problem was that the network did not work. The onboard network hardware will not work with XP (confirmed by Compaq). I bought a USB network device and continued. Next, the sound would not work - - Long story short, it took 4 days of hard work, consulting with all sorts of forums to get most of the hardware to work. Bottom line, if you have software that you absolutly must have, don't buy a PC with VISTA on it. And, yes, I consulted with Compaq and the originator of the business software during that time.

 

[alienware09]

Hi Forums,

I have one response...you pretty much are all right except for truthkid. I bought my PC in 2007 and they reccomended me not to upgrade to Vista beacuse of it's major problems. And to that one response to the get a PC with balls; the only reason I bought a PC with pretty much not any upgrades is so I could upgrade it in the future of newer OSs' and not lose money upgrading right away. Im talking about Windows 7. I will upgrade my PC to meet 7's requirements, if even needed because I'm doing upgrades now. Glad everyone likes the post and likes to argue with it!

Regards,
thevistahater
(alienware09)

 

[beauparc]

My laptop (bought 2007) came with Vista preloaded by the manufacturer and I had endless problems with it. I went out and bought my own copy of Vista Home Premium, installed it and have had no problems at all since.

With SP2 installed it is fast and stable and I have no intention of upgrading to Win7. Perhaps Win7 will boot a few seconds quicker, but so what? I switch mine on, make a coffee or walk the dog and when I return the machine is ready and waiting.

It is after all, only an operating system and since all my applications run perfectly, I can see no reason to change.

 

[JimJoe]

Rubbish. XP was insecure and now its ugly too compared to Vista. For me Vista ran fine if the PC/laptop had a windows experience index as close to 5 if not higher. Vista only refused to run properly on a laptop with 1GB of RAM. I've had no problems that couldn't be fixed, only Starforce refuses to run on some games. Stop complaining and get a PC that has enough balls to run Vista properly. Most likely its the users who have problems, not the OS.

Ugly ? Well, I guess that depends on what desktop pictures you use.

I don't consider any MS OS to be as secure as it could be. I rather liked XP. I don't like Vista.

 

[truthkid]

Hi Forums,

I have one response...you pretty much are all right except for truthkid. I bought my PC in 2007 and they reccomended me not to upgrade to Vista beacuse of it's major problems. And to that one response to the get a PC with balls; the only reason I bought a PC with pretty much not any upgrades is so I could upgrade it in the future of newer OSs' and not lose money upgrading right away. Im talking about Windows 7. I will upgrade my PC to meet 7's requirements, if even needed because I'm doing upgrades now. Glad everyone likes the post and likes to argue with it!

Regards,
thevistahater
(alienware09)

LOL everyone's right but me. Do tell how I'm wrong, considering how old you are, when XP came out you were what, 6? The fact of the matter is you don't work in the IT sector, your entire opinion is based around whatever configuration you have in your middle school, home, and friend's computers. Any new OS is subject to a series of non stop attacks because it's a new challenge to hackers, this is basic common sense. There's nothing wrong with being a young computer geek, you'll more then likely be one of the people coming up with the next big thing. I started working for the DoD when they were still using 2000, we held off on XP until SP1 until it passed our own internal tests. New OSes are never perfect, and Microsoft made the mistake of making a resource intensive GUI that it emphasized too much, failing to mention that it's minimum specs would not provide the experience that vista was intended to do. If Vista was garbage DoD wouldn't have given the green light to migrating to Vista, however it's passed our security tests and is fully capable. Considering our missions range from everything between flying armed UAVs to 3D map simulations, I'd say Vista is a completely functional efficient OS. So you can argue that it vista sucks all you want, it's certainly not giving the US military any more speed bumps then XP.

 

[Blackhawk7188]

I dont agree that Vista turned out bad...it turned out great. People just need to know the limits of the pc. If you have a pc that was MEANT for XP...you shouldnt even try vista in most cases. Unless you expect to have a slower pc.

I am what you can say a computer geek...i just turned 21. But my first pc was windows 98 SE. I can say that growing up i noticed issues for EVERY operating system. As pc abilities increase demand also increases. If you demand more out of a lower pc of course it will run bad...even blue screen. When my family upgraded to XP on our 98SE pc it crashed all the time...drivers were bad...and was slower that molasses in winter. Vista is the same way. If your pc wasnt meant for it from stock...upgrade to meet the requirements.

When you buy a pc with vista on it...it usually runs great out of the box. Just as long as the USER updates the drivers,programs, windows updates regularly, you wont have issues. My pc came with vista out of the box and runs awesome. I have business which I purchased on another partition...once again...runs great. I even have a laptop from 2005 that I installed vista on (over xp) AFTER upgrades to "properly" run vista...RAM and HDD. I have a desktop below the minimum req. with vista business on it and it still runs...slow mined you up never once blue screened or driver issues. In more cases than not...if its not the users faults its the hardware's fault...bad sectors on a hard drive, overheating cpu/gpu...even a motherboard for just some examples. Dont blame the OS...they work fine...especially vista. MS is the worlds leader in software...i dont think that they would screw up purposely to reduce sales of its NOW leading OS...

Regarding forums here....everyone has problems with anything. you cant say that XP didnt have discussed issues. remember that internet was still growing during beginning of xp...so forums may have not existed. I got on here to help others and even fix my own problems when more often than not is something that i messed with a couldnt figure out how to fix. Or even ask questions about hardware...os's...etc to make my pc run better and faster. Or give a respective opinion. there are even some tutorials to show to others and teach how stuff works and make everyone more efficient and familiar with the os.

Thx

 

[truthkid]

For the most part right on but XP came out in 2001, at which point the internet had over 500 million users. I wish I had my old computer so I could paste links that probably don't work to XP Usenets where Windows 2000 and 98SE users were talking trash about XP. Hell I was probably one of them.

 

[stoneys-nutz]

I would have to agree with truthkid and Blackhawk7188, i think Vista is great, never had any problems with the OS, the only time i had issues was due to my hardware, if you read through most of the posts on this or any other Vista forum, i think you will find that most of the problems with Vista are caused by the user and not by the OS.
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