Malwarebytes no longer supported in Vista?

Vistaar

Vista Guru
...I have no problem running Malwarebytes Free v3.5.1 (the recommended Win XP and Vista compatible version downloaded from Malwarebytes 3 - Frequently Asked Questions) on my Vista SP2 machine...
That does not surprise me at all.
...Have you considered that some of the newer Win Server 2008 .sys drivers and .dll libraries you've applied to your Vista SP2 OS since April 2017 (or perhaps Windows registry changes you've made to activate TLS 1.1 and 1.2 protocols for secure https connections in your IE9 browser) are now causing problems with certain third-party software like MB v3.5.1?
Problems with that hypothesis include (1) no one else has reported an issue with MB 3.5.1 and (2) wither evidently has no issue with the older MB 2.2.1.
I would agree that possible breakage of legacy software is the strongest argument against installing those updates, but those who are determined to continue using Vista as a web-browsing platform against all advice had better install those updates anyway for added security.
 

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  • Operating System
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lmacri

Vista Pro
...I would agree that possible breakage of legacy software is the strongest argument against installing those updates, but those who are determined to continue using Vista as a web-browsing platform against all advice had better install those updates anyway for added security.
Hi Vistaar:

I only raised that possibility since there is another user posting in this forum who installs these Windows Server 2008 updates on their Vista SP2 machines and is currently reporting similar "The update is not applicable to your computer" errors on one laptop - see Visturalator's thread Service Pack 3 for Vista, yep, I got it! in the Windows Update board.

Their Vista SP2 desktop is fine but their Gateway laptop is experiencing several problems, and System Information shows this problem machine has Vista SP2 Service Pack 3 (not Service Pack 2) installed. I'm waiting for Visturalator to post a Speccy diagnostic but in the mean time I was wondering if a recent Windows Server 2008 update might have changed a Windows registry entry or updated some .sys or .dll file that makes it difficult for software installers to recognize the bit architecture and/or installed service pack on some Vista SP2 machines.
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32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Firefox ESR v52.9.0 * Norton Security Deluxe v22.15.1.8 * Malwarebytes Free v3.5.1.2522-1.0.365
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    32-bit Vista SP2 Home Premium
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion dv6835ca
    CPU
    Intel Core2Duo T5550 @ 1.83 GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 30D2 (U2E1)
    Memory
    3 GB RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    250 GB SATA Western Digital Scorpio WD2500BEVS 5400 rpm
    Internet Speed
    5 MBps

Vistaar

Vista Guru
I only raised that possibility since there is another user posting in this forum who installs these Windows Server 2008 updates on their Vista SP2 machines and is currently reporting similar "The update is not applicable to your computer" errors on one laptop - see Visturalator's thread Service Pack 3 for Vista, yep, I got it! in the Windows Update board.

Their Vista SP2 desktop is fine but their Gateway laptop is experiencing several problems, and...I was wondering if a recent Windows Server 2008 update might have changed a Windows registry entry or updated some .sys or .dll file that makes it difficult for software installers to recognize the bit architecture and/or installed service pack on some Vista SP2 machines.
Visturalator most likely gets "the update does not apply to your system" when attempting to install Windows Server 2008 SP2 updates on the Gateway laptop because they are only compatible with Vista SP2 - not with SP1 or the mythical "SP3." I'm pleased to see that you are finally beginning to write about recovery before that thread grows to 2 pages in length. A repair install using a Vista SP1 ISO might be worth a try, but probably wouldn't work.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x86 SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Elite m9150f
    CPU
    Intel Q6600
    Memory
    3 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT

lmacri

Vista Pro
Visturalator most likely gets "the update does not apply to your system" when attempting to install Windows Server 2008 SP2 updates on the Gateway laptop because they are only compatible with Vista SP2 - not with SP1 or the mythical "SP3." I'm pleased to see that you are finally beginning to write about recovery before that thread grows to 2 pages in length. A repair install using a Vista SP1 ISO might be worth a try, but probably wouldn't work.
Hi Vistaar:

Thanks, but why not just jump in to Visturalator's thread Service Pack 3 for Vista, yep, I got it! and offer your assistance there? Any input is appreciated if it helps gets the OP's system up and running again.
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32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Firefox ESR v52.9.0 * Norton Security Deluxe v22.15.1.8 * Malwarebytes Free v3.5.1.2522-1.0.365
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    32-bit Vista SP2 Home Premium
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion dv6835ca
    CPU
    Intel Core2Duo T5550 @ 1.83 GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 30D2 (U2E1)
    Memory
    3 GB RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    250 GB SATA Western Digital Scorpio WD2500BEVS 5400 rpm
    Internet Speed
    5 MBps

wither 3

Vista Guru
Gold Member
Hi Imacri-

Lots of questions.

I did mention in another thread somewhere (I didn't look) but I was able to install Malwarebytes v2.2.1 and it worked fine. That was in the midst of trying to figure out what was slowing down my primary drive. That is the drive where I received the MB v3.5.1 wasn't applicable.

That was after I had install all those 2008 updates. I don't know if they had anything to do with the slowdown. All I know is that I kept running SFC scans and it was a never ending chore because it was constantly finding corrupt files. Reboot after each one. I had done three scans in a row and then shut down. When I went to boot up, neither drive would boot.

I managed to get Vista installed on a new drive using the ISO provided by ex_brit. I'm not going to do a lot of installations on it until efforts to get the other drives to boot fail. Then, I might try installing MB v3.5.1. I don't think I'll bother with the 2008 updates since I had no problems before them.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
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    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

lmacri

Vista Pro
...That was after I had install all those 2008 updates. I don't know if they had anything to do with the slowdown. All I know is that I kept running SFC scans and it was a never ending chore because it was constantly finding corrupt files. Reboot after each one. I had done three scans in a row and then shut down. When I went to boot up, neither drive would boot....
Hi wither 3:

I've asked if installing Win Server 2008 security updates on a Vista SP2 machine could cause problems with System File Checker e.g., due to version / SHA hash mismatches when SFC tries to repair corrupted files by replacing them with a "fresh" cached copy stored on the hard drive (according to the MS support article Use the System File Checker Tool to Repair Missing or Corrupted System Files the repository is a hidden, compressed folder at C:\Windows\System32\dllcache) or Windows installation media, but I've never gotten a satisfactory answer. I'm not sure how SFC determines the "correct" file version for users who manually apply Win Server 2008 security updates using .msu standalone installers, or whether SFC could find cached copies of Win Server 2008 files in a repository on the hard drive if they're ever damaged and need to be replaced.

At the end of the day, the best thing to do is to have a good emergency recovery plan in place so that you can re-image your entire system if something goes wrong and repairing your OS isn't a viable option. I use Macrium Reflect Free to create disk images and emergency rescue media (a bootable CD/DVD or USB thumb drive) but there are lots of other good choices.
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32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Firefox ESR v52.9.0 * Norton Security Deluxe v22.15.1.8 * Malwarebytes Free v3.5.1.2522-1.0.365
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    32-bit Vista SP2 Home Premium
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion dv6835ca
    CPU
    Intel Core2Duo T5550 @ 1.83 GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 30D2 (U2E1)
    Memory
    3 GB RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    250 GB SATA Western Digital Scorpio WD2500BEVS 5400 rpm
    Internet Speed
    5 MBps

Vistaar

Vista Guru
Update, the scan finished and found nothing but PUPs.
I never had such an experience myself, but "malware" has reportedly been known to interfere with Malwarebytes. If they have the talent, the creators of PUPs certainly have an incentive to do so. PUPs typically arrive on your PC when you install free software that was downloaded from a third-party website. Best practice is to avoid third-party downloads altogether. If that would cramp your style entirely too much, a good practice is to scan the installer with Malwarebytes before you run it. An even better practice is to upload the installer to VirusTotal for analysis before you run it. However, if the free installer in question is an online installer (a.k.a. stub installer, web installer, download manager), there might not be anything to detect, because the payload won't actually be delivered until after you launch the installer with administrator privileges. This is one case where Malwarebytes Premium's real-time protection might be worth a nickel (although I never used it myself), and one reason why you should use full offline installers whenever you can find them. For those running Vista, another reason is that today's web installers often do not support your XP-era default browser.

End of security lecture. You can now return to surfing the net with your favorite unpatched browser on your unpatched OS.
 

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  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x86 SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Elite m9150f
    CPU
    Intel Q6600
    Memory
    3 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT

wither 3

Vista Guru
Gold Member
Imacri-

My emergency plan included a image created in Macrium Reflect. That was on my secondary drive. Since I was unable to boot either driver, I couldn't do the recovery. Last night I got looking at the contents of that secondary drive and found that my attempt to reinstall Windows on that drive had somehow deleted that image. A reinstall isn't supposed to affect the folder it was in. I then reinstalled Vista on that drive also using the ISO. In the long run, what it does is make me take the time to reinstall software.

This morning I was thinking about it and some time ago I might have created the one time allowed Vista recovery disc. I have to look for that. If I have it, I might try it on the drive that was my primary. The ISO doesn't give me the full administrative privileges I had originally. I have a bunch of files to copy off that disc before I mess with it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps

Visturalator

New Member
Visturalator most likely gets "the update does not apply to your system" when attempting to install Windows Server 2008 SP2 updates on the Gateway laptop because they are only compatible with Vista SP2 - not with SP1 or the mythical "SP3." I'm pleased to see that you are finally beginning to write about recovery before that thread grows to 2 pages in length. A repair install using a Vista SP1 ISO might be worth a try, but probably wouldn't work.
Hi Vistaar would you be able to guide me to a Vista Home Premium x64 SP1 download for a repair reinstall? I'd be willing to try any suggestions at this point. Many thanks
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium SP2 64bit

wither 3

Vista Guru
Gold Member
You can get a full blown Vista ISO from ex_brit. Go here-


Click on ex_brit' avatar and start a conversation. Note whether you need 32 bit or 64 bit.

It has the Startup Repair option.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
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