Windows Mail problems

How to Fix Most Problems with Vista Windows Mail

information   Information
Windows Mail is a new version of Outlook Express with a new name for Vista. Windows Mail only supports POP3 and IMAP E-mail accounts not Web Site based accounts (EX: Hotmail or Yahoo) unless they are the paid versions with the POP3 option. Below are some solutions to the most common issues. For more information, see: www.oehelp.com/
Tip   Tip
For a list of error code numbers and their description for Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail, see: Microsoft Help and Support: Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail error codes





PROBLEM ONE
How to Remove a Stuck Undeletable Message in Windows Mail


information   Information
Do the section below for the folder that you have the stuck undeletable message in to remove it. The To Reset Windows Mail section will get rid of a stuck message in any folder.
Note   Note
This is the usual error message that you will get:

Unknown error has occurred, Windows Mail encountered an unexpected problem while displaying this message. Check your computer for low memory or low disk space and try again.




First
Antivirus and other Security Programs with Windows Mail
Note   Note
1. Make sure your antivirus or any other security programs have all of their email scanning options turned off. The emailscaning option is a redundant feature.​
NOTE: These scanning options can corrupt Windows Mail entire message folder, or the entire message store, when it attempts to remove a message it thinks contains a potential virus. You will still be protected against infection with the antivirus program's system protection. These email scans can also cause problems with opening attachments in Windows Mail to.​
2. Check the program's website for a update and install it, then install the KB941090 Update in the SECOND section below to.​
3. If step 2 does not help, then you may need to uninstall the program completely until they have a update that will allow it to work properly with Windows Mail.​
NOTE: Older versions of Norton, McAfee, and Trend may need to be uninstalled. They have had problems working properly with Windows Mail, and simply turning off the email scanning options will not always be sufficient. If Norton does not uninstall cleanly, then you will need to use the Norton Removal Tool. If McAfee does not uninstall cleanly, then you will need to use the MCPR Removal Tool (step 2 at link).​
4. If this still does not help, then your email account has been corrupted.​
A) Delete your current email account. (Click on Tools, Accounts in Windows Mail)​
WARNING: Be sure to backup (Export) any email messages you want to keep. See this tutorial for how: How to Backup and Restore Messages in Windows Mail
B) Close and reopen Windows Mail.​
C) Add the email account again. (Click Tools, Accounts, Add, E-mail)​

5. Some Free Alternative Antivirus Programs:
NOTE: These work with Vista 32 bit (x86) or 64 bit (x64) with no problems, but will need to have their email scanning options turned off as well.
(Do a Custom install and do not install the email scanning option.)​
(Do a Custom install and do not install the email scanning option.)​



Second
How to Remove a Stuck Message in All Mailbox Folders
Note   Note

  • The KB941090 Update will work on all Windows Mail mailbox folders for removing a stuck undeletable message. I would recommend to install it first instead of doing the manual solutions below.
  • The KB941090 Update is already included in Vista SP1 and SP2.
  • If you are unable to install the KB941090 update from steps 2A or 2B, then you can try the Workaround in the link in the Note for step 3 below or try manually deleting the message(s) using the Manual section below.
warning   Warning
The KB941090 update will just fix this for now. To help prevent this from happening again, read the First section above.
1. Close Windows Mail if open.​
2. Download the Microsoft Help and Support: KB941090 Update Download Package for your 32 bit (x86) or 64 bit (x64) version of Vista.​
NOTE: To see what bit version you have of Vista, open the Control Panel (Classic View) and click the System icon, or right click Computer in the Start Menu and click Properties. You will see the bit version under the System type section.

3. Install it.​
NOTE: If you get the The update does not apply to your system message (See screenshot below), then check to make sure that you downloaded the correct 32 bit or 64 bit version for your computer. If you have the correct version, then you already have it installed since the Vista SP1 and SP2 does include this update in it. You can try the Manual methods below, or the Workaround section in the link Microsoft Help and Support: KB941090 to fix this problem.​
Update.jpg

4. Reopen Windows Mail and check to see if the stuck message is gone, or that it can be deleted now.​
NOTE: If you still cannot delete them, then restart the computer and try again.​
How to Remove a Stuck Message in the Deleted Items Folder Manually :
NOTE: This sometimes may slowly delete them one by one in the Deleted Items.
OPTION ONE:
1. Click on another folder other than the Deleted Items folder.​
2. Right click Deleted Items folder or click Edit at top.​
3. Click Empty 'Deleted Items' folder.​
4. Click Yes for confirmation prompt.​
5. Repeat until the messages are all gone.​

OPTION TWO:
1. Click on Deleted Items folder to open it.​
2. Click on a message to delete and click on the red X icon on the toolbar.​
NOTE: You can repeat this one by one for each message you want deleted, or press Ctrl+A, or clicking on Edit - Select All, and click the red X to select and delete all messages.​

How to Remove a Stuck Message in the Junk E-mail Folder Manually :
NOTE: This sometimes may slowly delete them one by one in the Junk E-mail folder.
OPTION ONE:
1. Click on another folder other than the Junk E-mail folder.​
2. Right click Junk E-mail folder.​
3. Click Empty 'Junk E-mail' folder.​
4. Click Yes for confirmation prompt.​
5. Repeat until the messages are all gone.​
6. You should now be able to delete them in the Deleted Items folder.​

OPTION TWO:
1. Click on Junk E-mail folder to open it.​
2. Click on a message to delete and click on the red X icon on the toolbar.​
NOTE: You can repeat this one by one for each message you want deleted, or press Ctrl+A, or clicking on Edit - Select All, and click the red X to select and delete all messages.​





Third
Compact and Repair the Windows Mail Database
NOTE: WMUtil is a small utility to allow users to compact and repair the Windows Mail database in Windows Vista.
The Windows Mail database periodically needs compacting and defragmenting to function with maximal performance. Currently there is no manual method to compact the database in Windows Mail, unless one tinkers with the values set at Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance. WMUtil allows the user to manually compact the database to remove any wasted space from it.
Occasionally the database becomes corrupted as indicated for example by the inability of being able to delete messages from various folders. The Windows Mail database has a built-in repair feature that can sometimes fix such problems. Windows Mail provides no access to this feature, so clicking on the Repair button will manually run the repair feature on the database. Clicking on the Clear Outbox button will remove references in the database to phantom outbox messages.​
1. Download and install WMutil, then just follow that site's instructions step by step for the "program operation".​




Fourth
Check Email at Online Access
NOTE: Sometimes a email will get stuck at your email provider's online website access where you can alternatively access your email other than from your computer.​
1. Log in to you online email access for the account that you have in Windows Mail that has a stuck message.​
2. See if you can resend or delete the stuck message here.​




Fifth
Alternatives to Windows Mail
NOTE: If you are not comfortable doing the steps in this tutorial, continue to have problems with Windows Mail even after this, or just tired of messing with Windows Mail, then I would recommend for you to switch (upgrade) to the free:​
Windows Live Mail :
To Read About It see:
NOTE: It supports Pop3, IMAP, HTTP website (EX: Hotmail) email, and is a lot more stable. Plus, WLM will minimize to a tray bar icon, checks spelling as you type messages, and has a separate Inbox for each email account. WLM will automatically import Windows Mail messages, accounts, and settings into it. Contacts will have to be manually imported from within WLM. (Tools, Contacts, File, Import, Address book for current Windows User.) To see the Menu bar, press ALT+M and check "Show all menus".
For 32 bit and 64 bit Vista: Windows Live Suite Downloads
OR





PROBLEM TWO
How to Backup and Reset Windows Mail


Note   Note
This fixes all mailbox folders, message, or account corruption problems in Windows Mail. Contacts will not be affected.


warning   Warning
If you have created any stationery, then you will need to back it up and add it back manually later. Windows Mails stores stationery by default at: C:\Users\(User Name)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Stationery unless you have manually saved it somewhere else. This is a hidden System file location. For how to see it, see OPTION TWO here: How to Hide or Show Hidden Files and Folders in Vista . You can see more about stationery here: How to Use and Create Stationery in Windows Mail




Option One
To Backup Your Email Messages to Restore Later
NOTE: If you do not have or want any email messages to be backed up, then skip this part. You will lose all messages not backed up. To restore, see step 13 in the OPTION FOUR section below.



Option Two
To Backup Your Email Account(s) to Restore Later
NOTE: If you do not want to back up your account(s) or it is corrupted, then skip this part. You will lose all accounts not backed up. To restore, see step 12 in the OPTION FOUR section below.
1. Create a new folder named Accounts in C:\Users\(username)\Documents.​
2. Open Folder Options and click View tab.​
NOTE: Folder Options is in Control Panel (click Classic View) or Tools menu in a Explorer window.
A) Check Show Hidden files and folders.​
B) Uncheck Hide extensions for known file types.​
C) Click on OK to apply and close Folder Options.​

3. Go to:​

Code:
C:\Users\(username)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders
4. In Local Folders, right click the account{whatever #'s}.oeaccount file and click on Copy.​
5. Go to C:\Users\(username)\Documents\Accounts and right click on a empty area and click Paste.​
NOTE: If you have multiple accounts, repeat steps 4 to 5 for each account.
6. Close both windows.​
NOTE: Your email account information is now backed up in:

Code:
C:\Users\(username)\Documents\Accounts



Option Three
To Backup Windows Mail Settings to Restore Later
NOTE: These settings are stored in the registry. To restore, see step 14 in the OPTION FOUR section below.​
1. Open the Start Menu.​
2. In the white line (Start Search) area, type regedit and press Enter.​
3. If prompted, click on Continue in the UAC prompt.​
4. In regedit, go to: (See screenshot below)​

Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail
5. To Backup All Of Windows Mail Settings -
WARNING: If your Windows Mail is corrupted or not working properly, then skip backing this up. Only backup the individual ONLY backups (steps 6, 7, or 8) instead.​
NOTE: If you do this step, then skip steps 6, 7, and 8. They are all included in this one.​
A) In the left pane, right click on Windows Mail and click on Export.​
B) Go to step 9.​

6. To Only Backup Junk Mail Settings -
NOTE: This includes your Safe and Block Senders Lists.​
A) In the left pane, right click on Junk Mail and click on Export.​
B) Go to step 9.​

7. To Only Backup Message Rules Settings -
A) In the left pane, right click on Rules and click on Export.​
B) Go to step 9.​

8. To Only Backup Signatures -
A) In the left pane, right click on signatures and click on Export.​
B) Go to step 9.​
Windows_Mail_Settings.jpg

9. Type in a name, Windows Mail Settings as an example, and Save the .reg file to the Desktop.​
NOTE: This Windows Mail Settings.reg file is your backup.​
10. Repeat steps 6 to 9 for doing individual backups only.​
NOTE: If you did step 5, then you do not need to do steps 6 to 8. They are all included in step 5.​



Option Four
To Reset Windows Mail
NOTE: If you are just restoring your Windows Mail settings and messages to a new Vista install or user account, then you can skip the Reset part and go to step 12 below to restore from the backups above.
1. Close Windows Mail if open.​
2. Press Ctrl + Shift + Esc keys together to open Task manager.​
3. Click on the Processes tab. (See screenshot below)​
Task_Manager.jpg

4. If WinMail.exe is listed, then: (See screenshot above)​
NOTE: If WinMail.exe is not listed, then close Task Manager and go to step 5.
A) Click on WinMail.exe to highlight it and click End Process button.​
NOTE: If you have more than one WinMail.exe listed, then repeat this for each one.​
B) Click on End process button for the confirmation prompt. (See screenshot below)​
C) Close Task Manager.​
Confirmation.jpg

5. Open the Start Menu.​
A) In the white line (Start Search) area, type regedit and press Enter.​
B) Click on the Continue button in the UAC prompt.​
C) In regedit, go to: (See screenshot below)​


Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail
D) In the left pane, right click on Windows Mail and click on Delete.​
Windows_Mail_Reg.jpg
E) Click on Yes to confirm the deletion. (See screenshot below)​
F) Close Regedit.​
Confirm_Delete.jpg

6. Open Folder Options and click on the View tab. (See screenshot below)​
NOTE: Folder Options is in Control Panel (click Classic View) or Tools menu in a Explorer window.
A) Check (dot) Show hidden files and folders.​
B) Uncheck Hide extensions for known file types.​
C) Click on OK to apply and close Folder Options.​
Folder_Options.jpg

7. Open a Windows Explorer window and go to the folder: (See screenshot below)​

Code:
C:\Users\(username)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail
8. Open the Windows Mail folder and Delete all the contents (files and folders) inside the folder. (See screenshot below)​
WARNING: Do not delete the Windows Mail folder itself.​
Delete_All.jpg

9. Close this window.​
10. Restart the computer.​
11. When Vista is done restarting, open Windows Mail and then close Windows Mail again when it is finished opening.​
NOTE: This, steps 10 and 11, will now rebuild Windows Mail and it's registry settings to a clean state.
12. To Restore Your Account(s) Back
NOTE: If you skipped backing up your account(s) in Option Two above, then see * below.
A) Close Windows Mail if still open.​
B) Go to:​


Code:
C:\Users\(username)\Documents\Accounts
C) Right click the account{whatever #'s}.oeaccount file and click Copy.​
D) Go to:​


Code:
C:\Users\(username)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders
E) In Local Folders, right click on a empty area and click Paste.​
NOTE: Repeat steps B to D if you have multiple accounts for each account{whatever #'s}.oeaccount file.

* If you skipped backing up your account, then:
  • Click on Tools in the main Windows Mail screen.
  • Click on Accounts
  • Click on Add
  • Choose E-mail
  • Enter your email account information from your email provider.
13. To Restore Your E-mail Messages Back
NOTE: If you skipped backing up your messages above, then skip this step your messages have been deleted.

14. To Restore the Windows Mail Settings Back
A) Right click on the Windows Mail Settings.reg backup file (on Desktop) and click Merge.​
NOTE: If you backed up a individual setting, then do the same for it's .reg file.​
B) Click on the Run button for Security Warning pop-up.​
C) Click on Continue (UAC), Yes, and then OK when prompted.​

15. Open Windows Mail.​
16. Verify everything is working and copied over ok, then delete the backups if you like.​

I hope this helps everyone,
Shawn





 

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Hi Shawn,

Thanks for the reply and it seems it was around the 2007 version they had a lot of complaints from users who had just changed to Vista and they put out a lot of patches until they came up with a definite permanent fix and now seems that they put this patch in the 2008 version but my 2005 version had numerous problems with XP and a friend of mine had Trend and it hates Vista and she's now changed her Internet Security to Norton 2008 after I told her mine was working well and touch wood she's not had any problems since.
Thanks for your brilliant tutorials and I definitely will come back here if I get any problems with Vista, swear it's more glitches than XP ever had.

Simreaper
 

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Every time I receive a mail sent from a Mac computer, I get an error on opening it in Windows Mail running on Vista. Sometimes its a Syntax error and refers to a specific line, other times its an Object Expected error, also directing me to a specific line.
The error box asks me if I want to continue running scripts on this page.
So I can get past this error by clicking Yes, or just clicking the X box at the top, however it is extremely frustrating and would appreciate any assistance to overcome this problem.
Also I have noticed that some of these incoming mails are automatically directed to my Spam folder where I stand the chance of deleting important messages.
Help!!!!!
Brian Stickland
 

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Hi Brian,

If you do not mind plain text email messages, you can click Tools, Options, Read tab, then check Read all messages in plain text.

If you prefer to not have just plain text email messages, then you can click Tools, Options, Security tab. Next dot Internet Zone, uncheck Do not allow attachments... , and uncheck Block images and other... .

For the spam filter, you can right click on the message and click Junk E-Mail and Add Sender to the Safe Senders List. This should keep that sender's email messages from going into the junk filter.

I hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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Hi Shawn, thanks for the quick response.

The switch to Text only certainly works, but it is no good for me. I need the html read option.

The other suggestion has not helped.

I have repeatedly marked these messages as safe, but still they come to the Spam folder and they are in red!!

Do you have any more suggestions?

Thanks and regards

Brian Stickland
 

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Brian,

Are you using any other email filtering program from say a antivirus program? 3rd party programs usually do not work well with Windows Mail (WM).

Another option is to download the free Windows Live Mail (WLM) to see how it runs with this. You can run both WM and WLM, or just keep one. If it does not work, then you can just uninstall it without losing Windows Mail and how you have it setup.

http://www.vistax64.com/windows-live/92348-windows-live-suite-downloads.html

Shawn
 

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Shawn, I loaded Windows Live Mail and am afraid it has not helped.

I am running AVG version 7.5 but when I switch it off, it does not help.

I should have mentioned that at the top of the error message it states "Internet Explorer Script Error". Does this help to identify the problem?

I hope you can help, I am not sure where else to get help.

Regards

Brian Stickland
 

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Shawn, I seem to have fixed the problem by changing the setting in the Internet Explorer Options.Thanks for the help and sorry I did not provide a correct description of ther problem first time round.RegardsBrian Stickland
 

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Brian,

That's ok. I'm glad that you were able to fix your problem. What was the setting that you changed for others that may have the same problem?

Shawn
 

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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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Hi Shawn, in the Security Setting Internet Zone, I enabled the 'scripting' option.

Trouble is the system has now lost some functionality with web sites, for instance I can key in my details to my bank, but when I click on Go, it does nothing.

I am now trying the 'prompt' option.

Thanks again for your help.

Regards

Bian Stickland (Australia)
 

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Brain,

If it loses to much function, you can hit the Reset button in those options to go back to the default settings for the Internet Zone.
 

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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
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    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
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    2560x1440
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    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
Dear Brink

This is just to tell you that I had a stuck undeletable message in my Windows Mail reception box.
I followed your advice, i.e. dowloading and installing the KB941090 Update and it worked perfectly well.
Thank you so much.
All the best.
micminos
 

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Your welcome Micminos, and welcome to Vista Forums. :party:

Shawn
 

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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
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    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
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    2560x1440
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    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
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    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
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    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    Windows 10 Pro
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    HP Envy Y0F94AV
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    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
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    16 GB DDR4-2133
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    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
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    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
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don't you love it when something that has never been a problem suddenly becomes a problem for apparently no reason? Here's the thing: i noticed that my back up software (Memeo autobackup on a Seagate drive) was not actually picking up my email message store location even though i specifically selected the appdata folder that contains all of the subdirectories that contain the files. I, being the genius in training that i am :o started poking around and decided to "unhide" that app data folder to see if that was the problem...which it was not, by the way. So, i chose to return the folder and everything in it back to what it was before...hidden. Basically just trying to reverse my steps. i thought i'll check some forums later to try and find out why it won't backup those folders. Then the next time i opened the Mail program, it wouldn't open at all and i got the message (can't completely remember the details) that basically led me to the instructions of deleting and restoring the Mail accounts/folders/etc. Used this tutorial, long story short (too late? :p ) Mail opened as it should with all of messages/contacts/rules in place BUT: it will now not remember my login credentials! very annoying. entering them in the pop-up works, and does for the entire session. but close the program and i have to do it all over again the next time.

Now, i've read the other posts about the quirk of clicking the remember password option and clicking apply in the same instance, but no combination of clicking, etc. seems to be working. I don't even have the dots in the password box of the server tab when i go to properties under the account option, even though the remember my password box remains checked. FUN!!

Sorry for the long post, but thats the whole story. Thought it might save a few back and forths. ;)

SO, the motto for the day seems to be: "if it ain't broke, keep fixin' it 'till it is."

Can anyone (Brink, i'm lookin' right at you :D) help?
 

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sorry to say Sir Brink, this did not work. After the new account was created, it has the exact same symptoms as before: It does not remember login credentials and the password box on the server tab is empty. The first time i backed up my emails, when i couldn't even get the program to open, i copied the Windows Mail folder in its entirety, then deleted the old one to make the program create new directories. i then copied the contents of the copy into the new folder, and everything was where it should be, except for the lingering login problem.
 

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In this case Dustinfrank, I would reset Windows Mail completely from the tutorial here with only the messages backed up. This will wipe Windows Mail clean back like it was the day you installed Vista. Afterwards, create a new account and restore the messages.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/62560-windows-mail-problems.html

Shawn
 

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The only thing in the reset steps i haven't done is deleting the registry keys. I'll give the whole walk-through a shot when i get home tonight...after dinner...after my 2 1/2 year old goes to bed...if my wife doesn't have any grad-school homework to do...if i don't fall asleep on the couch....you get the idea!

Thanks Brink.
 

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LOL, I can understand that. :)

Deleting the REG files is what will make the difference. It is where all of the settings for Windows Mail is stored at.

Shawn
 

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ok, i have repeated those steps to the letter. Upon opening Windows Mail for the first time after i completed the process, it still had my Charter account pop-up window asking for credentials! I then once again deleted that account entirely, and after creating it from scratch, selected remember password, it immediately asks for my credentials again.

GRR.
 

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Ok,

It may not be Windows Mail since you deleted the email account, wiped out and reset Windows Mail, and started from scratch again.

I would contact Charter to check your account settings to see if they are correct or if Charter made any changes that would affect them. Check to make sure that the Log on using Secure Password Authentification (SPA) box is not checked.

Skip the Identities part since Windows Mail does not have this feature. Everything else is the same though.
Outlook Express 6.X Settings - Charter Communications

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
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    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
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