windows update just seems to hang while checking.

townsbg

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I just got done installing updates on a new 7 install. It took the better part of 2 days and I suffered through long check times to the point of rebooting the computer just to complete the check. I also had failed updates and ultimately I had to install in batches because trying to install all at once failed. After over 200 updates I am all caught up. This is making me rethink converting my mac to Windows.
 
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Cammygirl192

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I updated a few things on 64-bit Vista a few days ago and it didn't do anything, but I don't have IE9, dunno if that's a problem with it since you know what Microsoft think of Vista since W7 came out.
 

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townsbg

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I am updating now and it only took a few minutes to check.
 

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I don't have any problems with updates for Vista, I'm in New Zealand
 

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Vistaar

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Perhaps they have sufficient servers allocated for New Zealand, but apparently not for the U.S. Even definition updates for MSE have lately become a major ordeal. Makes me wonder if I should switch to some other free antivirus vendor that can afford adequate servers!?
 

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MILESCFA

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I am having the update issue but it is accompanied with the disappearance of all restore points and sfc /scannow finds corruption - lots of it - even if I keep running it over and over (ie, appears to fix and then immediately finds it again). I put more details on a thread I started:

http://www.vistax64.com/windows-updates/304257-windows-update-hangs-sfc-scannow-keeps-finding-corrupt-files-restore-points-deleted.html

If anyone understands the CBS.log created by sfc /scannow I am a little worried about all the "renaming" and "duplicate ownership" due to the possibility of a virus - I have McAfee and it finds nothing, and I can't remember now but somewhere something told me my partition table was either corrupted or could not be read. I am having no problems related to a corrupt table, everything works, except the update and disappearance restore points. I even did a full restore from a month back (fyi: I absolutely love AOEMI's backup software and I've tried "all").

Given my issues beyond the update, I started the other thread. My CBS.log is attached.
 

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MILESCFA

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IT APPEARS WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT THE DOWNLOADING PROGRESS IS NOT BEING REPORTED. It is also probably getting better, but I left mine on instead of getting impatient. I choose to try all the updates because it took so long to connect/check, but then it just kept reporting "nothing", ergo is said it was trying to download but it never reported percentages like "5% down...", (18% complete...", etc). The next thing I noticed and IT WAS REPORTING the INSTALL PERCENTAGES.

Got to go... got to reboot to finish installing :)
 

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Perhaps they have sufficient servers allocated for New Zealand, but apparently not for the U.S. Even definition updates for MSE have lately become a major ordeal. Makes me wonder if I should switch to some other free antivirus vendor that can afford adequate servers!?
I wonder if going to MS Update through your browser and using Hide My Ass would help then it wouldn't know where you were coming from

https://www.hidemyass.com/proxy
 

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Mooly

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Installing updates took over two hours the other day. CPU pegged at 100% as has become the norm lately as update check runs.

I'm starting to think my Vista days are drawing to a close for various reasons... not just this but outdated browsers etc. I know there are alternatives but I can't see them being supported much longer either.
 

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townsbg

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Both Firefox and Opera are still supported on XP so IMO you should be safe for quite some time.
 

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townsbg

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Just for kicks I set up an xp 64 bit virtual machine. The install only took ~20 minutes and the biggest problems I had where with ie8 and service pack 2 both of which I had to download using my Vista virtual machine. After that it took no time at all for windows to the find the updates however the option to look for updates other than for windows is hidden on service pack 2. Pertaining applications the power tools do not install except for Microsoft's calculator plus. Also one of my old games won't install nor does the Zune theme. It is functioning well and accepted 4.5 gb of ram. I've rediscovered space cadets pinball and I am enjoying it but I'm not very good at it.
 

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townsbg

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The update page works on IE 8 but I don't think I've tried other Microsoft pages on it; really the biggest problem I had wasn't with IE 8 but in not having IE 8. The update page (among other pages) didn't work on IE 6 so I had to download IE 8 using my Vista virtual machine. Interestingly enough it took almost no time at all in checking only for Windows updates (even considering how many there where) but it took significantly longer to check for updates for other products once I figured out how to enable that. It's not so apparent how to set it up as it is in sp 3.
 

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VFN

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I have the same problem. If I check Updates auto or manually I hear and see the tower working but when that activity stops in about 2 minutes svchost climbs to 97% (would probably be 100% if other stuff wasn't working) and just sits there instead of the Update taskbar icon appearing. Is there a way to get Updates for your PC individually through a webpage? I seem to remember that being possible for the monthly malicious tool and Windows Defender? If not, am I supposed to just let Update sit there for a long period of time with my CPU at 100% which makes my PC essentially inoperable. This is really exasperating. Thanks.
 

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You can click to get information on each update and perhaps that would lead to a download or you can wait for Windows to tell you that there is an update. I was on my Vista virtual machine for a few minutes and got an alert. Another option is to enable automatic installs.
 

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Click where? I have Updates set to notify, not download and choose or install auto. I'm not getting any notification.

BTW, if I start the update what can I do to stop it if I don't want to wait? Just end the svchost.exe process? Can I do that safely? Is there any other process I should stop?

Thanks.
 

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I received notification of Updates today after 30 minutes of waiting so I thank this thread for letting me know to wait. I still don't understand why this occurring and maybe someone can explain to me why Trusted Install completely hogs my CPU for 5-10 minutes after installing Updates.

Thanks.
 

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Mooly

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The long time searching for updates seems to be tied in with Microsoft limiting available resources to the Vista update channel. All effort is being put into Windows 10.

Once updates are installed and you reboot as usually required then its normal in Vista to see lots of CPU and disc activity. Its been like that from day one.
 

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townsbg

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..I thank this thread for letting me know to wait.
I believe that I did say that although not directly. Anyway that kind of response might not get you too much assistance. Keep in mind that we are doing this on our own time and not being paid.
 

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VFN

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The long time searching for updates seems to be tied in with Microsoft limiting available resources to the Vista update channel. All effort is being put into Windows 10.

Once updates are installed and you reboot as usually required then its normal in Vista to see lots of CPU and disc activity. Its been like that from day one.
Thanks. Kind of strange and unfair if 10 is causing the problem.

I believe that I did say that although not directly. Anyway that kind of response might not get you too much assistance. Keep in mind that we are doing this on our own time and not being paid.
I'm not sure what you're responding to here. if you saw sarcasm in my response there was none. Waiting, which a few people spoke about I think, allowed me to complete the Update process. I'm always appreciative of any responses I get to my questions here regardless of their helpfulness and always voice that.
 

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